Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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Front looks too loose to me. I can not see the 8s !!! ... incredible .. engine is too fast for the frame ... Tires is 29.5x11.50x15 .. tonight i will check the front shock calvert 90-10 if work properly You need a double adjustable shock in the front, not that 90/10 thing. You have no real way to control the front suspension.
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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How old are the rear tires and how many runs on hem?
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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If you have Calvert's 90/10 front shocks, take them off and sell them and buy a decent DA shock. The Calvert 90/10s are WAYYY too loose. Any 90/10 is wrong for your car anyway.
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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Front looks too loose to me. I can not see the 8s !!! ... incredible .. engine is too fast for the frame ... Tires is 29.5x11.50x15 .. tonight i will check the front shock calvert 90-10 if work properly oook ... im working for buy double adj shock ! You need a double adjustable shock in the front, not that 90/10 thing. You have no real way to control the front suspension.
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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If you have Calvert's 90/10 front shocks, take them off and sell them and buy a decent DA shock. The Calvert 90/10s are WAYYY too loose. Any 90/10 is wrong for your car anyway. yes i have 90/10 Calvert..... why not work on my car ?????
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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How old are the rear tires and how many runs on hem? 29.5 11.50 15 MT with around 15 pass
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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I would try 6 flats of negative preload. big motors hit the cal tracks so hard they quickly rebound and lose traction maybe 12 flats negative. now on the rear... qa1 double adjust all closed -6 compression -6 return
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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opinion:Its not the hit thats the problem, its chassis control, she tries to hook hard at the hit it seems. Do you have travel limiters up front? Shock control in front looks to be toast/nada. In my minds eye the reason shock adjustment on rebound isn't making any difference is due really poor front suspension control and, perhaps too much bottle too soon but, wont know that until front end is tightened up. If you just have90/10 front shocks- are they adjustable at all- can you go to 70/30 and at least lengthen up the bump stops? I would tighten up rebound on rear shocks as far as they would go and try to tighten up the front. Man i wish you could find a set of scales.
It also appears you "might" still need a little more air pressure. We have found here that tires actually need a bit more pressure than we used to think. very good info ...i Will let you know.. if I can find the balance ...which benefits with 70/30 instead 90/ 10 ??
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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If you have Calvert's 90/10 front shocks, take them off and sell them and buy a decent DA shock. The Calvert 90/10s are WAYYY too loose. Any 90/10 is wrong for your car anyway. yes i have 90/10 Calvert..... why not work on my car ????? They are too loose. Lets the front rise too fast unloading the rear. I tried the Calvert 90/10s on my car a long time ago and it refused to hook w/ them...that was running mid 9s on motor. Put stiffer shocks back on and it went back to working good. Slowing that rate of front separation does a lot. The Viking double adjustable shocks I have now are much better.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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How old are the rear tires and how many runs on hem? 29.5 11.50 15 MT with around 15 pass How old are they and do they sit outside in the sun light when not in use?
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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Cab is getting at something here, and I agree. The sidewalls are most likely killed from the combination of power/ weight, and running such low air pressure. Put me in with the guys that suggest front shocks also.
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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How old are the rear tires and how many runs on hem? 29.5 11.50 15 MT with around 15 pass How old are they and do they sit outside in the sun light when not in use? No sun ... 1 year age
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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Finally
Little bit less shot in 1 step 150 hp wide time from 1 step to 2 step before 2 sec.. now 3 sec ?
caltracs at bottom hole
new front shock Viking or AFCO
Torsion bars ??? is possible have drag racing torsion bars ?? mine is original from the car
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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What engine was in your car originally? Don't get the drag race torsion bars...they'll make it worse. Like a loose shock, a loose torsion bar is not what you want.
The Cal-Tracs in the bottom hole will soften the hit. I still think you need more air pressure. My car responded well to adding air pressure from 12 up to 14-15 psi.
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Re: Bad 60 FT with 70 lb more of Megablock on my Cuda
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FWIW I've been a 1.33 60 ft. with Rancho 90-10 fronts and 5-ways out back but every car is different up to a point........
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