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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2535352
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Originally Posted By varunner
after thinking about it, I'm doing cut to fit. the easy button is tempting though. thanks all

Probably the best decision. Thats what I do. The lengths are always right because I did them myself. Just take your time and you will be happy with the results.


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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2535435
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My Firecore wires came for my 440 already made to the right lenth. And they had the lenth just right as they fit great. The Firecore wires have been on my car for about 7 years and still look like new and working great. Ron


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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2535490
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The summit house wire 8.5MM are made of the same wire as the firecores - just you have to make them yourself
Summit Racing SUM-881000 - Summit Racing® 8.5mm Ignition Wires

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: DoubleD] #2535494
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Do the Summit brand wires have the Summit logo on them?

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: fbs63] #2535504
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yes they are printed with the summit logo - the wire is actually a Delphi Packard design

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2535512
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I cut my own to fit. Firecore will not let you do this, so I use MSD or Taylor.
There is no power difference b/t them.


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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2535518
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I bought a set of Firecore wires. They fit my application okay, just wasn't thrilled w/how they locked onto the plug. Just my opinion, went back to Taylor 409's. Much happier w/them!
Taylor all the way
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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: 1974 474 Duster] #2535563
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Originally Posted By 1974 474 Duster
I bought a set of Firecore wires. They fit my application okay, just wasn't thrilled w/how they locked onto the plug. Just my opinion, went back to Taylor 409's. Much happier w/them!
Taylor all the way
Ken


My one personal experience with Firecore told me they were JUNK. The boots on the plugs cracked almost immediately. A good friend of mine lost a new nitrous motor due to a misfire associated with a BRAND NEW set of Firecore wires. I wouldn't put the on my lawn mower. MSD wires are all I use.

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2535567
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Good grief, another plug wire thread, how much free advertising is one company allowed?

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: cgall] #2535632
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The short answer is there isn't a hp difference between plug wires unless wires are d3fective somehow. I guess if they are solid core and the RFI is interfering with the ignition electronics, then yes.

I like Magnecor wires but have used other spiral core brands, NGK, BWD, MSD, Crane, etc and all have worked well. Many OEM plug wires are now spiral core, even my '79 Peugeot had stock spiral core wires on its little 4-cylinder Hemi.

R.

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: cgall] #2537101
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Originally Posted By cgall
Good grief, another plug wire thread, how much free advertising is one company allowed?


Seriously? I've donated over $10 grand in cash to Moparts events, members, sponsorships, contests, car shows, and etc. Firecore50 Wires have been BOUGHT by all of the Schumacher Top Fuel Teams for 8 years straight, trusted by Championship Pro Stock Motorcycle cycle Teams for the same amount of time, on the worlds fastest gasoline powered, piston driven car, World Champion tractor pullers, APBA race boats, hundreds of track champions, track record holders, and everything in between. The wire has proven itself. Sometimes the boots, terminals, or terminations have failed due to human error, but the wire has not. I've been a paid sponsor on here, on and off for years. Only reason have not as of late, I forgot to pay Tom. I still sponsor a bunch of Moparts racers, though. One of the most active, in my opinion, racers on here, Al Aguire, will attest to the integrity of myself, and my wire. I've spent over 5 grand, just on one Moparts party at Norwalk.Those parties were the best things going. Whatever problems someone might have had with our wire or me, I'll work it out. As far as lawn mowers, those need a solid core .. smile Here is a podcast, that has over 10k unique listeners. Are the negative guys saying these guys are clueless?

https://www.facebook.com/scott.clark.923...k1Mzg4MjkyMjEz/


PS, All 4 of the Connie Kalitta Top Fuel Cars will be buying Firecore50 Wires as well.. Just got off the phone with a Crew Chief.


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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: sunroofgtx] #2537112
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Firecore lights the fire in my cars engine.

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: dogdays] #2537226
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Originally Posted By dogdays
The short answer is there isn't a hp difference between plug wires unless wires are d3fective somehow. I guess if they are solid core and the RFI is interfering with the ignition electronics, then yes.


R.


I can tell you this is not true. I have done dozens of A B A tests on brand new spark plug wires and there is one brand of spark plug wires mention earlier in this thread that ALWAYS picks up hp when i replace them with my spare set of firecore wires. (I bought, was not given)

As far as the OP, I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.

FYI I run firecore on my race car.

Joe

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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: cgall] #2537261
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Originally Posted By cgall
Good grief, another plug wire thread, how much free advertising is one company allowed?


Whether it's blocks, wires, rear ends, transmissions, whatever, it's about information. Call it what you want, conversations about real world results are worth having. I appreciate information from the people actually building the parts and doing the work. I don't understand the desire to run them all off.

To the subject at hand, there are a number of companies that make decent wires. It's like oil, everybody has their favorite. I think the maintenance of plug wires is at least as important as the brand. I consider them a consumable. Years ago, I was advised - by someone I always listen to, a guy smarter than me - to replace plug wires every year, coil wires every 6 months. I do that, I don't have plug wire issues.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: CMcAllister] #2537279
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
Originally Posted By cgall
Good grief, another plug wire thread, how much free advertising is one company allowed?


Whether it's blocks, wires, rear ends, transmissions, whatever, it's about information. Call it what you want, conversations about real world results are worth having. I appreciate information from the people actually building the parts and doing the work. I don't understand the desire to run them all off.

To the subject at hand, there are a number of companies that make decent wires. It's like oil, everybody has their favorite. I think the maintenance of plug wires is at least as important as the brand. I consider them a consumable. Years ago, I was advised - by someone I always listen to, a guy smarter than me - to replace plug wires every year, coil wires every 6 months. I do that, I don't have plug wire issues.




Wholly crap!!! I keep info of every pass I make and have never seen a reason to do that. My ultra 40’s were put on three years ago when i built this engine and the engine is still printing tickets. But then again I consider myself a budget racer that hates wasting money


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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: CMcAllister] #2537295
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I agree. There seems to be people in the world that would rather see a guy fail than succeed. I dont get it. Must make them feel better about there self.

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2537299
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Don't know about the fire cores but the reason I ran the MSD's was because the boots could be manually angled to where you wanted them. Plus I like to make the wires to the length I need.

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: sunroofgtx] #2537571
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Originally Posted By sunroofgtx
Originally Posted By cgall
Good grief, another plug wire thread, how much free advertising is one company allowed?


Seriously? I've donated over $10 grand in cash to Moparts events, members, sponsorships, contests, car shows, and etc. Firecore50 Wires have been BOUGHT by all of the Schumacher Top Fuel Teams for 8 years straight, trusted by Championship Pro Stock Motorcycle cycle Teams for the same amount of time, on the worlds fastest gasoline powered, piston driven car, World Champion tractor pullers, APBA race boats, hundreds of track champions, track record holders, and everything in between. The wire has proven itself. Sometimes the boots, terminals, or terminations have failed due to human error, but the wire has not. I've been a paid sponsor on here, on and off for years. Only reason have not as of late, I forgot to pay Tom. I still sponsor a bunch of Moparts racers, though. One of the most active, in my opinion, racers on here, Al Aguire, will attest to the integrity of myself, and my wire. I've spent over 5 grand, just on one Moparts party at Norwalk.Those parties were the best things going. Whatever problems someone might have had with our wire or me, I'll work it out. As far as lawn mowers, those need a solid core .. smile Here is a podcast, that has over 10k unique listeners. Are the negative guys saying these guys are clueless?

https://www.facebook.com/scott.clark.923...k1Mzg4MjkyMjEz/


PS, All 4 of the Connie Kalitta Top Fuel Cars will be buying Firecore50 Wires as well.. Just got off the phone with a Crew Chief.

Is that all???? Who is Al what's his name? beer
I have a set of moroso & msd hemi wires for sale.....
The only wire on my car for the last 5 years is FIRECORE!

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Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: varunner] #2537580
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12 years ago I dynoed my engine with MSD and was giving a set of firecore wires to test, made 7 hp more with firecore. Even the dyno operator was amazed and he was a msd guy. Both sets was brand new. I have been believer ever since.
This was 700+ hp pump gas engine.

Re: MSD vs Firecore wires [Re: hemi-itis] #2537704
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Originally Posted By sunroofgtx
Originally Posted By cgall
Good grief, another plug wire thread, how much free advertising is one company allowed?


Seriously? I've donated over $10 grand in cash to Moparts events, members, sponsorships, contests, car shows, and etc. Firecore50 Wires have been BOUGHT by all of the Schumacher Top Fuel Teams for 8 years straight, trusted by Championship Pro Stock Motorcycle cycle Teams for the same amount of time, on the worlds fastest gasoline powered, piston driven car, World Champion tractor pullers, APBA race boats, hundreds of track champions, track record holders, and everything in between. The wire has proven itself. Sometimes the boots, terminals, or terminations have failed due to human error, but the wire has not. I've been a paid sponsor on here, on and off for years. Only reason have not as of late, I forgot to pay Tom. I still sponsor a bunch of Moparts racers, though. One of the most active, in my opinion, racers on here, Al Aguire, will attest to the integrity of myself, and my wire. I've spent over 5 grand, just on one Moparts party at Norwalk.Those parties were the best things going. Whatever problems someone might have had with our wire or me, I'll work it out. As far as lawn mowers, those need a solid core .. smile Here is a podcast, that has over 10k unique listeners. Are the negative guys saying these guys are clueless?

https://www.facebook.com/scott.clark.923...k1Mzg4MjkyMjEz/


PS, All 4 of the Connie Kalitta Top Fuel Cars will be buying Firecore50 Wires as well.. Just got off the phone with a Crew Chief.

Is that all???? Who is Al what's his name? beer
I have a set of moroso & msd hemi wires for sale.....
The only wire on my car for the last 5 years is FIRECORE!


Man, I like those Firecore Hemi rocker cover boots. I should have looked into it further. I always make my own wires anyway. I made my own MSD wires on my Hemi.

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