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when to replace torsion bars #2534407
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I have the original 6cyl torsion bars in my A body barracuda and since i added the 511 they are loosing there tension. The pass side is adjusted to just about max and wont lift any higher with extra turns and now the dr side is needing more turns to keep car level. Looks like a winter project coming up. Which bars do i replace they with? Race or original replacement?

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534412
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Someone on here had a set of race torsion bars for sale not that long ago. I don't know if they sold or not. I'm not sure how you'd even search to find them.

But I know I found them on here.

Firm Feel also sells torsion bars and I think they have some drag race bars. I know they make some fairly big road race stuff. I haven't been to his site in awhile.


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I dont really know what im looking for. Should i be looking for a race 6cly bar? What size race bar should i be looking for? Any brand? I dont even know whats available.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534438
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
I dont really know what im looking for. Should i be looking for a race 6cly bar? What size race bar should i be looking for? Any brand? I dont even know whats available.


I don't remember how they rate the race bars but I don't think it was by engine size.

Thinking about it I think AndyF has a tech page on his web site about torsion bars. You could also call Dick at Firm Feel.


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Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534439
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I just jumped on the Firm Feel site real quick and they have an .820 diameter race bar and an .880 street/strip bar. It would be worth it to call Dick and see what he says. He's a sharp guy. And you could check with AndyF too.


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Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534457
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I wouldn't use a skinny bar for a street car, there is just too much stress on the thin bar. It depends on how much track time you do and how sensitive the car is to a thicker bar up front. If it was me I'd use at least a SB bar and maybe a BB bar in a street strip type of car. The heavier bars will control the car better on the street although they might slow you down a bit at the track.

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Originally Posted By AndyF
I wouldn't use a skinny bar for a street car, there is just too much stress on the thin bar. It depends on how much track time you do and how sensitive the car is to a thicker bar up front. If it was me I'd use at least a SB bar and maybe a BB bar in a street strip type of car. The heavier bars will control the car better on the street although they might slow you down a bit at the track.


Even that .820 diameter race bar? I forget the diameter of the /6 bar off the top of my head. I hope the race bar isn't just a /6 bar with race added to it.


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Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534473
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Race bar? What kind of racing? Drag racing usually wants a stock 6 cyl bar and 90/10 shocks so that the front end will come up and stay up for weight transfer....Road racing usually wants stiffer springs than stock and these will cost you ET on the drag strip.


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Ok, i'll give them a call. I can take a look in Andys book as well. If the bars available are 6cly,SB,BB, i would probably go for the SB bar for street/strip then. I'm using tubular upper control arms with hyme joints and with 90/10's it was way too loose on the street so i put some 60/40's on it for now. Way better control.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534513
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Looks like the A body bar sizes are .810, .870, .890.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534688
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i would run .870 or .890 with a DA shock, loosen it up at the track...

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.870 with a DA shock sounds like a great idea. I'll make some calls monday.

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figure out what you have in there first to find a point of comparison.
i would prob step one size from what it has currently...

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I just measured .830 with my mic. so they are the original 6 cyl bars 51yrs old. I think its time.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534784
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You’re a Mopar guy.... why would you change them? laugh2

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Because the front end is just about draggin on the ground.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534799
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
.870 with a DA shock sounds like a great idea. I'll make some calls monday.


Dave post what you find. I think my Dart needs bars too, the drivers side adjuster is ran way in and the passengers side not so much. Mine measure .850", 273 2bbl car now has a heavy a$$ R1 block in it.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534835
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When to change? When they break. /6 are not that light, it's real close to a 318. I've never heard of a TB twisting that far from normal use. TB are made different than valve or coil springs, almost like a drag axel. Check the sockets in the crossmember for rot or cracks. Use the 68-69 383 bar for a replacement.

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Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: justinp61] #2534846
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Ok. I gave the dr side bar another full turn and i think it needs another half turn.

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Why the 68/69 383 bar?

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