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when to replace torsion bars #2534407 08/10/18 11:30 PM 08/10/18 11:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan mopar dave OP master
mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	I have the original 6cyl torsion bars in my A body barracuda and since i added the 511 they are loosing there tension. The pass side is adjusted to just about max and wont lift any higher with extra turns and now the dr side is needing more turns to keep car level. Looks like a winter project coming up. Which bars do i replace they with? Race or original replacement? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534412 08/10/18 11:48 PM 08/10/18 11:48 PM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Someone on here had a set of race torsion bars for sale not that long ago. I don't know if they sold or not. I'm not sure how you'd even search to find them. But I know I found them on here. Firm Feel also sells torsion bars and I think they have some drag race bars. I know they make some fairly big road race stuff. I haven't been to his site in awhile. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: madscientist] #2534422 08/11/18 12:29 AM 08/11/18 12:29 AM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	I dont really know what im looking for. Should i be looking for a race 6cly bar? What size race bar should i be looking for? Any brand? I dont even know whats available. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534438 08/11/18 01:25 AM 08/11/18 01:25 AM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Originally Posted By mopar dave I dont really know what im looking for. Should i be looking for a race 6cly bar? What size race bar should i be looking for? Any brand? I dont even know whats available. I don't remember how they rate the race bars but I don't think it was by engine size. Thinking about it I think AndyF has a tech page on his web site about torsion bars. You could also call Dick at Firm Feel. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534439 08/11/18 01:26 AM 08/11/18 01:26 AM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	I just jumped on the Firm Feel site real quick and they have an .820 diameter race bar and an .880 street/strip bar. It would be worth it to call Dick and see what he says. He's a sharp guy. And you could check with AndyF too. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534457 08/11/18 02:31 AM 08/11/18 02:31 AM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,043 Oregon	I wouldn't use a skinny bar for a street car, there is just too much stress on the thin bar. It depends on how much track time you do and how sensitive the car is to a thicker bar up front. If it was me I'd use at least a SB bar and maybe a BB bar in a street strip type of car. The heavier bars will control the car better on the street although they might slow you down a bit at the track.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: AndyF] #2534467 08/11/18 03:15 AM 08/11/18 03:15 AM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Originally Posted By AndyF I wouldn't use a skinny bar for a street car, there is just too much stress on the thin bar. It depends on how much track time you do and how sensitive the car is to a thicker bar up front. If it was me I'd use at least a SB bar and maybe a BB bar in a street strip type of car. The heavier bars will control the car better on the street although they might slow you down a bit at the track. Even that .820 diameter race bar? I forget the diameter of the /6 bar off the top of my head. I hope the race bar isn't just a /6 bar with race added to it. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534473 08/11/18 04:15 AM 08/11/18 04:15 AM
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HemiRick master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,848 Memphis	Race bar? What kind of racing? Drag racing usually wants a stock 6 cyl bar and 90/10 shocks so that the front end will come up and stay up for weight transfer....Road racing usually wants stiffer springs than stock and these will cost you ET on the drag strip. Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: madscientist] #2534506 08/11/18 11:15 AM 08/11/18 11:15 AM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Ok, i'll give them a call. I can take a look in Andys book as well. If the bars available are 6cly,SB,BB, i would probably go for the SB bar for street/strip then. I'm using tubular upper control arms with hyme joints and with 90/10's it was way too loose on the street so i put some 60/40's on it for now. Way better control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534513 08/11/18 11:31 AM 08/11/18 11:31 AM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Looks like the A body bar sizes are .810, .870, .890. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534688 08/11/18 06:02 PM 08/11/18 06:02 PM
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krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	i would run .870 or .890 with a DA shock, loosen it up at the track...

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: krautrock] #2534731 08/11/18 07:35 PM 08/11/18 07:35 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	.870 with a DA shock sounds like a great idea. I'll make some calls monday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534764 08/11/18 09:16 PM 08/11/18 09:16 PM
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krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	figure out what you have in there first to find a point of comparison. i would prob step one size from what it has currently... [img]https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/attachments/torsion-252520bars-jpg.282689/[/img]

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: krautrock] #2534780 08/11/18 09:51 PM 08/11/18 09:51 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	I just measured .830 with my mic. so they are the original 6 cyl bars 51yrs old. I think its time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534784 08/11/18 10:08 PM 08/11/18 10:08 PM
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J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,194 aZLiViN	You’re a Mopar guy.... why would you change them?

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: J_BODY] #2534788 08/11/18 10:17 PM 08/11/18 10:17 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Because the front end is just about draggin on the ground. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534799 08/11/18 10:29 PM 08/11/18 10:29 PM
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justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Originally Posted By mopar dave .870 with a DA shock sounds like a great idea. I'll make some calls monday. Dave post what you find. I think my Dart needs bars too, the drivers side adjuster is ran way in and the passengers side not so much. Mine measure .850", 273 2bbl car now has a heavy a$$ R1 block in it.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534835 08/11/18 11:21 PM 08/11/18 11:21 PM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,275 fredericksburg,va	When to change? When they break. /6 are not that light, it's real close to a 318. I've never heard of a TB twisting that far from normal use. TB are made different than valve or coil springs, almost like a drag axel. Check the sockets in the crossmember for rot or cracks. Use the 68-69 383 bar for a replacement. Last edited by cudaman1969; 08/11/18 11:26 PM.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: justinp61] #2534846 08/11/18 11:43 PM 08/11/18 11:43 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Ok. I gave the dr side bar another full turn and i think it needs another half turn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: cudaman1969] #2534847 08/11/18 11:44 PM 08/11/18 11:44 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Why the 68/69 383 bar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534848 08/11/18 11:49 PM 08/11/18 11:49 PM
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JAMESDART mopar J Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 619 nj	I ran my original slant 6 bars with iron head bb in my dart. I re did the front end again and just put a heavier slant six bar in, but now have aluminum head bb.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534916 08/12/18 02:25 AM 08/12/18 02:25 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I would say it of course depends on if its a race or street car. Myself I still run the original bars in my 63. Its an original 383 car and to me they work fine on the street and work fine at the track. I don't think I would want to run the 6 cyl bars on a car that's basically a street car most of the time. Ron

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2534924 08/12/18 03:06 AM 08/12/18 03:06 AM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,275 fredericksburg,va	Originally Posted By mopar dave Why the 68/69 383 bar? 383 is only what, 20 lbs less than a high block.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: cudaman1969] #2535010 08/12/18 11:32 AM 08/12/18 11:32 AM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	My BB added 80# to the car over the SB it replaced. Mostly street car, but i want suspension to work best possible at the track. So the 68/69 383 tb is the best option for this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535046 08/12/18 01:08 PM 08/12/18 01:08 PM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,275 fredericksburg,va	Originally Posted By mopar dave My BB added 80# to the car over the SB it replaced. Mostly street car, but i want suspension to work best possible at the track. So the 68/69 383 tb is the best option for this? If you can find a set that's nice,? 340 should be ok, depends on how many miles where on them. My bars for the 69 440 are #895-894 (off build sheet) Can't remember the diameter right now. The SB bars are a dime a dozen, should be easy to find. If street-strip they would be best all around in my book. Aftermarket ones that size would be ok, nothing heavier, it would ride like a tank.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535064 08/12/18 01:58 PM 08/12/18 01:58 PM
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CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,586 Fulton County, PA	A torsion bar is a spring. Just as with coils, different spring rates (diameters) can be used to adjust how the suspension and how the car reacts in your particular situation. And springs wear out too. More so for a light spring required to store more energy. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: cudaman1969] #2535304 08/12/18 09:19 PM 08/12/18 09:19 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	I think the 340 bar would be an .870". I readjusted bars both sides again 1 more turn each. Will see if this holds for now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535444 08/13/18 02:46 AM 08/13/18 02:46 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Also on my sons 72 Dart it was a 318 AC car. We removed the AC and now have a 400 in it but the 400 has aluminum heads and intake and headers. I felt with the AC gone and the aluminum parts on the 400 it may be no heavier then when it had the 318 with AC. So it still has the 318 AC bars in it which have been in it with a bigblock (400) since 1997 with no problems. And it is a street car. Ron

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: 383man] #2535722 08/13/18 05:03 PM 08/13/18 05:03 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Just sooke with matt at firm feel. He suggests .880 bars for best of both worlds. $325/pr, but out of stock right now. Who else should i call for opinions? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535728 08/13/18 05:13 PM 08/13/18 05:13 PM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Originally Posted By mopar dave Just sooke with matt at firm feel. He suggests .880 bars for best of both worlds. $325/pr, but out of stock right now. Who else should i call for opinions? Well that sucks. How long before they get some in? I think PST has torsion bars. I can't vouch for the quality though. Maybe someone else can. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: madscientist] #2535733 08/13/18 05:16 PM 08/13/18 05:16 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	He did say they might have them tomorrow. Hes gonna call me when they are available. He also said he sells alot of 1" bars for street cars that are not stiff at all. They also have a .820 but said it wouldnt last long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535744 08/13/18 05:41 PM 08/13/18 05:41 PM
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krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	http://www.manciniracing.com/mop890diambo.html

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: krautrock] #2535749 08/13/18 05:46 PM 08/13/18 05:46 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	That bar from mancini might be fine, but i nolonger call mancini for advise on anything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535764 08/13/18 06:29 PM 08/13/18 06:29 PM
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krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	you can use that part number to search availability elsewhere. i found some .960 bars for my coronet using that method. only paid about ~$250 shipped if i recall correctly. got them here, if you're in a hurry though, i'd just order from Jeg's... https://www.moparonlineperformance.com/product-p/p5249150.htm

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: krautrock] #2535771 08/13/18 06:43 PM 08/13/18 06:43 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Always looking for a deal. Thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535819 08/13/18 08:04 PM 08/13/18 08:04 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Just received a call back from matt@firm feel. They had to order the material for the .880 bars. Wont be available for another month. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535826 08/13/18 08:22 PM 08/13/18 08:22 PM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,275 fredericksburg,va	$300 for bars! Glad I have about 10 sets.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: cudaman1969] #2535837 08/13/18 08:48 PM 08/13/18 08:48 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Yep. I want brand new. Not used up bars that need to be changed again in another 2 or 3yrs. Magnumforce has .870 bars for $325 as well. Need to give them and hotchkiss a call yet. They are pricey new. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2535895 08/13/18 10:45 PM 08/13/18 10:45 PM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Originally Posted By mopar dave Yep. I want brand new. Not used up bars that need to be changed again in another 2 or 3yrs. Magnumforce has .870 bars for $325 as well. Need to give them and hotchkiss a call yet. They are pricey new. I forgot about Magnumforce. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: madscientist] #2536293 08/14/18 05:51 PM 08/14/18 05:51 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Made some more calls today. Magnumforce recommended a 1.030 and a 1.080 bar. Hotchkis have a 1.1 bar. Not where i want to go. So i called calvert racing because i use caltrac bars and they recommend 340sb bars as a member here also recommended. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2536512 08/15/18 12:01 AM 08/15/18 12:01 AM
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@#$%&*! New user name, Same old jerk! @ Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction	FWIW, OE sizes are 0.83, 0.85, 0.87 and 0.89 and have paint daubs in yellow, olive (green), blue and white, respectively. There's not a huge difference in stiffness between them. By far the most common are the 0.85" bars, which should work fine at the dragstrip. I saw a mention of a reconditioning service on the Firm Feel web site a while back. I don't know if that includes an annealing, resetting and heat treating. If they're damaged they're no good for their intended purpose.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2537166 08/16/18 01:57 PM 08/16/18 01:57 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	There is a pair of the .870 340 bars used in the classifieds for $40. Still have paint no rust. Temping as i wanted brand new, but that price sure looks good to me. Last edited by mopar dave; 08/16/18 01:57 PM. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2537179 08/16/18 02:24 PM 08/16/18 02:24 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,043 Oregon	Buy them and try them. New ones are more than $300 so at $40 you can't really go wrong. If they aren't quite right for your car you can always put them back up for sale. Someone with a small block car might need them.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2537188 08/16/18 02:39 PM 08/16/18 02:39 PM
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madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Originally Posted By mopar dave There is a pair of the .870 340 bars used in the classifieds for $40. Still have paint no rust. Temping as i wanted brand new, but that price sure looks good to me. 40 bucks and a bit of shipping sounds like a good deal. I'd give that a whirl. You ain't out much if you don't like it and it gives you a starting point that isn't your old used bars. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: AndyF] #2537222 08/16/18 03:38 PM 08/16/18 03:38 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Think i will Andy. Been thinking about it all morning. Ill give him a call. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2537367 08/16/18 08:47 PM 08/16/18 08:47 PM
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JAMESDART mopar J Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 619 nj	If you don't i might have to.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: JAMESDART] #2537378 08/16/18 09:02 PM 08/16/18 09:02 PM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	I just bought them. $40 for the bars and $40 to ship, so $80. Better than $325+shipping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2540352 08/23/18 11:04 AM 08/23/18 11:04 AM
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mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	I received the $40 TB today. I bought the removal tool as well. Any tips on getting these installed? The old ones i had out once when i rebuilt the entire front suspension, but that was 1997. Probably start on this next week sometime. Thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2540381 08/23/18 11:59 AM 08/23/18 11:59 AM
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krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	pull clips from the rear of TB socket pull the upper control arm bump stops off unbolt lower shock mount loosen the TB adjusters completely back the lower control arm nut off most of the way use a prybar to push the LCA towards the rear, do this by the pivot pin the bar will slide back and you should be able to pull it out by hand, you can slide the bar all the way back through the TB crossmember remember the bars are side specific let the LCA hang all the way down and push the adjuster blade all the way down, then slide the bars in reassemble, just snug the pivot pin bolt in the air, final torque when it's at ride height...

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: krautrock] #2540401 08/23/18 12:47 PM 08/23/18 12:47 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Your better off getting a set of used A-body bars.. they have already taken a set and wont drop for quite some time.. any new bar that hasnt been pre loaded will take a set Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 08/23/18 12:48 PM.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2540412 08/23/18 01:20 PM 08/23/18 01:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,990 Anoka County, MN Leigh master
Leigh master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,990 Anoka County, MN	After the adjuster bolt and nut is out, pry down on the adjusting arm, this will relieve the tension, and it will slip right out.

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: Leigh] #2540569 08/23/18 07:13 PM 08/23/18 07:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan mopar dave OP master
mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Ok. Thanks guys. That info is appreciated. Mike, these are used 340 A body bars. 892/893. They are marked left and right. Would the driver side be the left? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2540596 08/23/18 08:08 PM 08/23/18 08:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington M madscientist master
madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	Originally Posted By mopar dave Ok. Thanks guys. That info is appreciated. Mike, these are used 340 A body bars. 892/893. They are marked left and right. Would the driver side be the left? Yes, drivers side is left. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: mopar dave] #2540616 08/23/18 09:27 PM 08/23/18 09:27 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Originally Posted By mopar dave Ok. Thanks guys. That info is appreciated. Mike, these are used 340 A body bars. 892/893. They are marked left and right. Would the driver side be the left? When looking at odd and even parts just think of you in the drivers seat

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2541722 08/26/18 08:18 PM 08/26/18 08:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan mopar dave OP master
mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Gonna get started on this soon and looking at the bars, they have a slight twist. How do i identify the front and rear of the bars? Does it make any difference? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: krautrock] #2541813 08/27/18 12:05 AM 08/27/18 12:05 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,205 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,205 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted By krautrock pull clips from the rear of TB socket pull the upper control arm bump stops off unbolt lower shock mount loosen the TB adjusters completely back the lower control arm nut off most of the way use a prybar to push the LCA towards the rear, do this by the pivot pin the bar will slide back and you should be able to pull it out by hand, you can slide the bar all the way back through the TB crossmember remember the bars are side specific let the LCA hang all the way down and push the adjuster blade all the way down, then slide the bars in reassemble, just snug the pivot pin bolt in the air, final torque when it's at ride height... Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: when to replace torsion bars [Re: Cab_Burge] #2542051 08/27/18 03:25 PM 08/27/18 03:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan mopar dave OP master
mopar dave OP master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	Yeah, thanks cab. Followed those directions except left the shocks bolted up and the pivot pin nut tight. Slid right out no problem. 2hr job. Its about time a project went straight forward without a ton of issues cropping up along the way. Thanks guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

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