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Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS #2530033
08/01/18 03:46 PM
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We've all heard it time and time again on how hard alcohol is to run and keep the water moisture out of it. I changed my oil "last year" at the beginner of September to get ready for all the long weekend races around Halloween. Last week 7-24-18 I changed it for the first time this year. My racing season ended the last week of October and started again the second week of April. I prefer Brad Penn as I have stuck with it through 3 different name changes at least over the last 44 years and have had zero issues with it. The steps are easy.

1. Get the jetting right. I have both O2's and EGT readings that I use.
2. Get heat in the engine (180 plus) 30 minutes before race time.
3. lean-out valve to build heat. I use a 1/2 inch ball valve
4. get it up to at least 165 degrees before starting your burn-out
5. After a pass shut off you fan, water pump, and open the lean out valve driving back to the pits after a pass.
6. Never ever just for the heck of it start your car during the week and rev it up to impress your buddies.

Pretty simple procedure that works. Here are some pictures from my oil change last week. I didn't even have to wipe out my valve covers or head drain-backs like I see guys doing that run pump gas or race gas.


Untitled by John Cadamore, on Flickr

Untitled by John Cadamore, on Flickr

Untitled by John Cadamore, on Flickr

Untitled by John Cadamore, on Flickr


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530056
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You forgot Rule 0.: "be an adult who listens to good advice".


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Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: polyspheric] #2530063
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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Alcohol Myth #1: Margaritas on the rocks are better than frozen.

Seriously, a Tequila Slushee rocks! punkrocka


Alcohol Myth #2: Margaritas without salt on the rim of the glass are totally acceptable.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?! NO SALT??? eek

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We now return you to your regularly scheduled Moparts post. tonguue

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530078
08/01/18 04:54 PM
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I'm with Brad, although I prefer mine on the rocks with GOOD tequila I can rock a slushy when the time arises


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Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530084
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My blown alky hemi was so rich at idle/staging that we changed all 18 qts of oil after every run. We also changed the oil to cool the motor. The oil came out anyway after each run so we could replace the upper rod bearings so I could tune off of them for the next run.

Once in a while we would reuse the oil for a second run the next day if it looked good enough, most times not.

It took 18 qts in a 10 qt dragster pan to keep the pickup covered up for 5 seconds since 60 pounds of boost did not allow the oil to drain back very quick.
I had one crew guy who did my oil changes each run. It was up to him if we reused it the next day.

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530111
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IIRC chamois used as a filter will remove water on each pass? Enough to make it worthwhile - IDK.


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Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530113
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Fear the Kraken is my best alcohol advice.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: CMcAllister] #2530117
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And some wonder why Mopar guys are stuck in the purple shaft days. Lol 😂


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530124
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bump6. Never ever just for the heck of it start your car during the week and rev it up to impress your buddies.

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530131
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I like 1921 Tequila. As far as running in an engine ...very good advice!

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: quickd100] #2530150
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I agree with Pittsburg, only thing I did diff is added a star vac pump. I ran injected with 2 toilets on a tr and another motor with a single toilet on a 4bbl intake. Loved the injection, I ran that stuff on a w5 combo and a 360-1 combo for 10 or so yrs. Both ran well, I would still be running it if I wouldn't have switched to a f2, e85, w8 combo.

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: polyspheric] #2530181
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
IIRC chamois used as a filter will remove water on each pass? Enough to make it worthwhile - IDK.


Sham-WOW. 😁

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: theraif] #2530185
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Originally Posted By theraif
bump6. Never ever just for the heck of it start your car during the week and rev it up to impress your buddies.


That usually happens after the Margareta's LMBO smile


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Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530192
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Your just a "special" guy, thats part of it.

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: Porter67] #2530200
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
Your just a "special" guy, thats part of it.




Not sure what you mean by that but I’m all ears. Let it out


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530219
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Just an off the cuff comment after coming in from finding the cat I buried got dug up and drug off by some foxes or coyotes.

Ive never bought into myths on fuels myself, ive had zero problems many mention with pump or race gas, carbs, fuel lines, ect.

So I dont go for the common myths on alky either, used to run a pull tractor on it and dont recall any big pitfalls then except things staying cold and making ice.

I guess "special" will be banned form use soon.

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530223
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Pittsburgh, Best advice I've seen on here in quite a while.

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530233
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How about a PTO? You can start the car, whack the throttle and some daquiri's at the same time! haha

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: Dave Hall] #2530238
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What about fuel system storage corrosion?

Re: Lets end some of the alcohol MYTHS [Re: pittsburghracer] #2530239
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I’m certainly too lazy to ever entertain the idea, but how many O2 sensors and egt’s along with location.

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