Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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First of all, turn the damned boost up! I can fart and make 6 lbs. of boost! Turn it up to at least 10 lbs. Don't worry, your motor can take it! Not sure about the driver, tho..... Secondly, I doubt that you are at the limits of your exhaust system. I ran a 3-1/2" exhaust system with the 3-1/2" Hooker AeroChambers, and my best time was a problematic pass of 9.16. I'd suggest uncorking it and see what the difference is. It’s just a pump gas street car...
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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It does seem like the dual 4" should be enough but it for sure worth unhooking it and giving it a try.
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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First of all, turn the damned boost up! I can fart and make 6 lbs. of boost! Turn it up to at least 10 lbs. Don't worry, your motor can take it! Not sure about the driver, tho..... Secondly, I doubt that you are at the limits of your exhaust system. I ran a 3-1/2" exhaust system with the 3-1/2" Hooker AeroChambers, and my best time was a problematic pass of 9.16. I'd suggest uncorking it and see what the difference is. It’s just a pump gas street car... So was mine. But when its at the track, it's quick and easy to swap a pulley, mix in a couple gallons of race gas, take out some timing, and let it eat. But hey, its his car.
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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I dont think your limitation is from the full exhaust,more probable that you mufflers are what holds you back if anything exhaustrelated.Hooker aerochambers are not available in 4" from what i can remeber and as can bee seen in your pics you have adapators to make the 3½" mufflers fit 4" tubing.
If i where you i would try some 4" straight thru mufflers such as Borla XR1,Magnaflow,Dynatech splitflow,Hooker maxlfows. Those are what i can think of that are availble with a reasonable lenght that is ovalbody with a straight thru design that is not crimped down inside,Things may have changed since i left the exhaustbussines 5 years ago. The biggest aero chambers are 3.5". You need some straight through style mufflers. I have 4" Hooker max flows on mine now. I doubt they are any louder than the aero chambers honestly. I was surprised how quiet they are. They're cheap compared to the other brands too. I have the 4" Dynomax bullet mufflers with a full 4 inch x pipe system to the axle. Again, like others, I was surprised how quiet they were, disappointingly unloud
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
[Re: DusterDave]
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06/07/18 06:41 PM
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First of all, turn the damned boost up! I can fart and make 6 lbs. of boost! Turn it up to at least 10 lbs. Don't worry, your motor can take it! Not sure about the driver, tho..... Secondly, I doubt that you are at the limits of your exhaust system. I ran a 3-1/2" exhaust system with the 3-1/2" Hooker AeroChambers, and my best time was a problematic pass of 9.16. I'd suggest uncorking it and see what the difference is. I think this is correct. 6 lbs of boost is what the factories use on the stock engines to keep them out of trouble. My Cummins will make 26 lbs and it's a stock 12 valve with just some minor pump tweaks and a single 4" exhaust. I know diesels are different but come on, 6 lbs? Turn up the wick and let it eat! Might require some tuning though to reach the full potential.
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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First of all, turn the damned boost up! I can fart and make 6 lbs. of boost! Turn it up to at least 10 lbs. Don't worry, your motor can take it! Not sure about the driver, tho..... Secondly, I doubt that you are at the limits of your exhaust system. I ran a 3-1/2" exhaust system with the 3-1/2" Hooker AeroChambers, and my best time was a problematic pass of 9.16. I'd suggest uncorking it and see what the difference is. I think this is correct. 6 lbs of boost is what the factories use on the stock engines to keep them out of trouble. My Cummins will make 26 lbs and it's a stock 12 valve with just some minor pump tweaks and a single 4" exhaust. I know diesels are different but come on, 6 lbs? Turn up the wick and let it eat! Might require some tuning though to reach the full potential. Turn that 12 Valve up. My stock 12 valve has been over 35 lbs for 200,000 miles. Doug
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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06/08/18 01:07 AM
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First of all, turn the damned boost up! I can fart and make 6 lbs. of boost! Turn it up to at least 10 lbs. Don't worry, your motor can take it! Not sure about the driver, tho..... Secondly, I doubt that you are at the limits of your exhaust system. I ran a 3-1/2" exhaust system with the 3-1/2" Hooker AeroChambers, and my best time was a problematic pass of 9.16. I'd suggest uncorking it and see what the difference is. I turned it up to 10 lbs with improvement.It sepatated one of the slip joints.Will uncork it and see what happens At South Mountain Raceway in July!
HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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06/08/18 03:29 AM
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The last blown pump gas hemi I dyno tuned made 927 HP at 7300 RPM with 7 lbs. of boost with 33 degree timing, it was 12% undriven. We swap the pulleys so it had 13% over drive, put in 110 octane race gas, reduced the timing to 25 degrees and that motor made 1024 HP at 6500 RPM with 12.0 lbs. of boost before going into detonation above that RPM We added two degrees and it went into detonation sooner I should have started with 22 degrees or less, probably What I found out later is you can make to much power on the street, even with pump gas normally asperated Back pressure can make a heck of a lot of difference on some cars based on the pipe and muffler sizes and type used
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Re: Found my limits with a full exhaust system
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06/08/18 02:23 PM
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Thank you.I wonder if collector length makes a difference with a blown application.Zoomies might work best but I street drive....alot!
HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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