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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: rebel]
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04/02/18 08:53 AM
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Good combo. Lots of torque. A 572 is 4.50 bore x 4.50 stroke. So, a 588 is a little more of either. A good head will go a long way. I'm building a 605, 4.625 stroke x 4.560 bore, with an Indy solid block and B1 heads. Pistons are specific for Indy heads vs. B1 heads.
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: dvw]
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04/02/18 10:02 AM
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I had Todd at Marsh performance build Me a 588 for my 68 Cuda street car. 4.5 bore 4.625 stroke. It made 960 horsepower and 860 foot pounds of torque. It's an awesome combo......
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: rebel]
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04/02/18 12:49 PM
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Id say 4.500 X 4.625 is the Mopar std for a 588. IMO just need a good set of heads to support the cubes.
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: 70satelliteguy]
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04/02/18 12:55 PM
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"It's an awesome combo....."
Old school could you give some details?
Thanks Sure. Indy aluminum RB Block. Indy 572 - 13 heads, they flow 410 CFM. 14.1 cr. .800" 290@.050 solid roller cam... It's in a 68 Cuda Fastback with a passion 5-speed Overdrive. On the dyno graph the top two lines are with an indy 3x manifold and Dominator. The lower two or with a Mopar 337 and 850 double Pumper. The double pumper and 337 manifold really choked it down!
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68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: dvw]
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04/02/18 01:01 PM
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I just purchased a Molnar crank. Seems to be a nice piece. A 588 is generally a 4.560" bore 4.500 stroke. It's at max bore for standard bore spacing.
Doug Molnar is nice stuff...I have his crank and rods in the Arrow.
5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: Old School]
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04/02/18 01:29 PM
04/02/18 01:29 PM
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"It's an awesome combo....."
Old school could you give some details?
Thanks Sure. Indy aluminum RB Block. Indy 572 - 13 heads, they flow 410 CFM. 14.1 cr. .800" 290@.050 solid roller cam... It's in a 68 Cuda Fastback with a passion 5-speed Overdrive. On the dyno graph the top two lines are with an indy 3x manifold and Dominator. The lower two or with a Mopar 337 and 850 double Pumper. The double pumper and 337 manifold really choked it down! What are you using for clutching behind that 572 ???
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: Sammy]
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04/02/18 01:38 PM
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4.375 bore and 4.625 crank is the most popular and make gobs of torque.
I'm a fan FYI that would be 566" and cant say I've ever heard anyone running one like that
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: RATTRAP]
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04/02/18 01:57 PM
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"It's an awesome combo....."
Old school could you give some details?
Thanks Sure. Indy aluminum RB Block. Indy 572 - 13 heads, they flow 410 CFM. 14.1 cr. .800" 290@.050 solid roller cam... It's in a 68 Cuda Fastback with a passion 5-speed Overdrive. On the dyno graph the top two lines are with an indy 3x manifold and Dominator. The lower two or with a Mopar 337 and 850 double Pumper. The double pumper and 337 manifold really choked it down! What are you using for clutching behind that 572 ??? It's 588 cubic inches. I use a McLeod dual disk clutch. I expect zero problems with it
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: Sammy]
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04/02/18 02:07 PM
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4.375 bore and 4.625 crank is the most popular and make gobs of torque.
I'm a fan At that small of a bore, it would really shroud the valves and not let it breathe.....
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: Old School]
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04/02/18 02:48 PM
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What are you using for clutching behind that 572 ???
[quote=Old School]It's 588 cubic inches. I use a McLeod dual disk clutch. I expect zero problems with it What RPM are you going to shift at ? I hear a duel clutch will not be able to handle a higher RPM shift, say around 7800 to 8000 RPM. Anyone else want to chime in!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: rebel]
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04/02/18 03:06 PM
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The clutch will be a problem if you want to shift above 6000ish.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: madscientist]
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04/02/18 04:20 PM
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The clutch will be a problem if you want to shift above 6000ish. Who told you that? I do it every time I drive and have been for the last 20 years with no problems......👍
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: RATTRAP]
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04/02/18 04:21 PM
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What are you using for clutching behind that 572 ???
[quote=Old School]It's 588 cubic inches. I use a McLeod dual disk clutch. I expect zero problems with it What RPM are you going to shift at ? I hear a duel clutch will not be able to handle a higher RPM shift, say around 7800 to 8000 RPM. Anyone else want to chime in! I will probably shift around 7000. I have been using these clutches for the last 20 years and I have never had a problem with them👍
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: 588 cubes
[Re: rebel]
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04/02/18 09:58 PM
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My new mill is 4.625 stroke x 4.560 bore. I will more than likely be using a single disc 10" clutch. Works fine well above the engines potential. Still deciding on Black Magic (Cale Aronson), Advanced (Robe Youngblood) or HRS (Chris Hyatt). You can't go wrong with any of them.
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