Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: RylisPro]
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02/12/18 05:49 AM
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It means everything to me. I have no idea if the guy selling me a used trans had previously dropped it or not? Why would you sell a used T56 Magnum anyways as they are great transmissions that anyone would want, unless there is something wrong with it and that person selling needed to get rid of it. Used parts work for you and thats aweome! More power to you as well as cash in your wallet. I just personally do not trust any used parts. With a brand new trans, everything is 100% good which leaves no doubt. Parts also have a finite life span as well. Nothing raced and abused lasts forever. Did you buy your cuda new? Are you sure it wasn't abused previously? And btw, even new parts break. If someone can afford 20k for a hellcat crate engine/harness, then they can afford a new t56 or a built one built beyond what they need. But a viper spec t56 meets the specs needed and most have under 10k miles on them. Bigger problem is the clutch/bellhousing. As quicktime bells designed to fit the earlier cars aren't big enough for a twin disc you would get in a new challenger.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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02/12/18 05:57 AM
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If you want to argue for the sake of arguing I guess you have somewhat of a small point, but you're missing (likely on purpose for the sake of arguing) the (I'd say) general consensus of going with a part that you know the history of an rebuilding, vs shelling out big $$$ up front for a used transmission and then having to possibly rebuild it, and then discover that some clown was rugging it, banging it into gear and it now has a split case. If you look at my first post, you will see I just mentioned an option that would work. The op wanted a cheaper option than spending 8k for a 6 speed transmission. A viper spec t56 is rated for 650trq which is what a hellcrate crate engine makes. How many people here have bought and used USED 4 speed transmissions... last I checked they don't make them new. You guys seem to be set on using all new stuff, but not everything can be bought new and I use used parts all the time.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: mymcodebee]
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02/22/18 02:53 PM
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PM replied! Also if anyone wants a quote for T56 Magnums please email me at rylispro@gmail.com as I may not see my PM's as quick. Just a heads up, I talked to Clay Reynolds at Tremec and he said that for now they will be making both close and wide ratio versions, but will eventually phase out the close ratio 0.80 5th and 0.63 6th TUET11009 & TUET11010 Magnums due to low demand.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: mymcodebee]
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02/22/18 06:34 PM
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The hellcat crate will have the oem challnger twin disc. Not sure if quicktime makes a bellhousing that is large enough. I did come across this while looking for a bell that would work with a larger twin disc clutch: http://bwoodyperformance.com/proddetail.php?prod=BBG-BH The newer challenger have a tall flywheel, stepped, so could cause issues with the bellhousing quicktime offers because of the height of the assembly.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: RylisPro]
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02/22/18 09:08 PM
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I got a reply from Holley: So if that is true, it would make sense as that is the taller of the Gen3 Quicktime bellhousings. I can also get good pricing on all of Quicktime's bells so just let me know! Rm-8077 Gen3 to T56 height =6.465" RM-8081 Gen3 to T56 height = 7.339" Good info on the hellcat flywheel Silver70! Nice ebay price as well on the Mcleod 6913-07. Unfortunately I can't match his price. My second T56 Magnum just came in as well and looks great!
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