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Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings #2444416
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Who has done it and could you share some pics with me please.
Working on plumbing the radiator to the block using -16 hose and fittings. I have a general idea how I want to do it but looking for other ideas as well.

THANKS!!!

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444424
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Several ways to do it. I make water manifold blocks that provide AN o-ring ports in and out of the block. That makes it easy to plumb a big block.

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444425
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I think your going to want to go bigger than -16 fittings. maybe -24 or -32, might not get enough flow through the -16 line


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444441
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Most dragsters use the -16... shruggy

Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: Dave Hall] #2444504
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I don't remember what size mine are, but here area few pics. Using a Shogun water manifold. Runs cool, and cools down fast. Stage at 130* - 135*, and cross finish line at 145* - 150*. 160*- 165* at trailer in pits.

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444505
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I have been using this system since 2004. I wore out my 1st Shogun electric water pump last summer.


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444514
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The shogun manifold uses #8 fittings. I used one, and line size was never a problem. (tried larger line size and higher pump capacity with different manifold configuration and no difference)

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444539
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I have a standard cast aluminum water pump housing with a male -16 welded on the passenger side lower (inlet) my radiator has inlet and outlet on the passenger side (both -16) I have the bottom hose figured out using a 150 deg. sweep on the WP and a 90 deg. on the lower radiator

The upper I have a a 90 deg for the radiator and am working on what I need for the water outlet neck to get it around to the upper on the radiator. Wanted to use a T stat but I cant find a neck that has a -16 and accepts a T stat. I have a CVR swivel with a 90 that may work. Just looking at other options also.

Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444550
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Been running-12 lines since 03, and would never run a race car without AN fittings again. Can make a 1/4 mile pass, and drive the mile back to the pit and never get over 170.

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444551
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check out autoplumb.com

Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444552
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I would look at Meziere. They are sexy and they sell fittings to go AN in any size you like.

https://www.meziere.com/Products/Cooling-System-Products/Pumps-Electric/Mopar.aspx

I have used their reservoir style and their remote. Love them.


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444564
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Another vote for Meziere. Good products, outstanding customer service and support.

I use -16 lines for cooling.

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: 340Cuda] #2444575
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I haven't ran this setup yet, but its dual -12 an hoses with a Meziere radiator mounted pump and Meziere adapters on the motor plate..




Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: Forest] #2444725
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I run -20 on my 70 Challenger for the upper & lower rad hoses due to mine is driven on the street. The -12 like everyone has pictured for just a drag car.


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444730
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-16 street car no problems.

When the turbo cars got popular there seemed to be a lot of local ones stuffing the walls do to putting coolant down. I know of more than one that blew up a coolant hose when head gaskets let loose etc. Thats when I decided to go AN even though I am NA.


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444734
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I looked into this though I just have an electric WP, no remote, no motor plate. Just a nicer way execute the system and the fittings can help with routing issues. Would be cool though if some of the rad companies offered the choice of threaded fittings installed for inlet and outlet hoses instead of having them welded on. Large angled/swivel fittings can add up for sure though. Nice job Forest!


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2444748
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I use the Andy F water manifolds as shown above in Andy's post. 2- 12 an return lines off the top going to the top of the radiator, 2- 12an lines off the bottom going to the dual outlet pump and a 1 3/4" rubber hose feeding the remote.


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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2456187
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Well this is how we ran the cooling lines. Had to use a couple 150 degree bends due to how close the radiator is to the engine. Should work fine.
We installed a bleeder valve in the top of the CVR water neck because this is the highest point in the system.

Thanks for all who posted photos and gave advice.

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2456191
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I took a picture of mine using -20 hose & fittings. The lower was not finished in this picture but is now. I like the look of the black hose & fittings even though it is a race/street car I was still going for that more of a Factory look.

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Re: Cooling system plumbed with AN fittings [Re: cl440] #2456194
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We used -16 line and fittings. I do like the Black braid look. Wish our radiator had driver side in and out but it came with the car and is brand new so we made it work.

We went stainless braid on all the other lines. Stayed with Black fittings though.

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