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Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods #2438792
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Thinking about ditching my small block turbo set up and going to a 440

Small block runs great but I wanna go faster lol

And im cheap so looking for ideas

Thanks!


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2438796
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Well, as far as "bang for the buck 440 heads" you're going to hear "440 Source".

I run em, ditched the old 906's. No complaints

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2438843
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RPM for the rods.

There is a B1 setup ready to run on racingjunk for $3500. If you already have to make the exhaust you might as well get exotic right?

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2438849
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Originally Posted By dodge turbo
I wanna go faster

And im cheap



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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2438908
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GM lol.... I know right

I wanna keep it mopar... boost makes up for what it lacks


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: RSNOMO] #2438913
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By dodge turbo
I wanna go faster

And im cheap



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They make 440s work The things ya learn.

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439181
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Seeing what dizuster does with a cast crank, stock stroke 360 with a single turbo I'd be looking to replicate that if you want to go faster.


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439208
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A stock 360 magnum with some boost will hit 450 hp or better i am sure. A friend of mine pushed a nonintercooled boneyard 318 to 534 hp before he lost a head gasket! You say cheap, it is darn hard to beat the power per $ a turbo can give you. Besides , they work well with less converter and road gears!


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439227
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Im already turbo’d small block ...been for years
And it makes close to 700 rwhp


I want to go big block and make more power then 700 at a lower boost level
And go faster smh


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: gregsdart] #2439232
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Originally Posted By gregsdart
A stock 360 magnum with some boost will hit 450 hp or better i am sure. A friend of mine pushed a nonintercooled boneyard 318 to 534 hp before he lost a head gasket! You say cheap, it is darn hard to beat the power per $ a turbo can give you. Besides , they work well with less converter and road gears!

Exactly what I was thinking, maybe a bigger turbo or better cam then what you have. You're not going to get a bucks down better package than where you're at now.
Me personably, I would spend the money on a 5.7 Hemi and turbo. Should go easily in your truck. Hot Rod did a build-test awhile back with a stock junkyard engine and a turbo they had used on another engine, made way over 500 hp. With bolt on stuff.

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439357
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Originally Posted By dodge turbo
Im already turbo’d small block ...been for years
And it makes close to 700 rwhp


I want to go big block and make more power then 700 at a lower boost level
And go faster smh



To do that you are going to need an aftermarket block, not cheap.


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439620
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Have the first run of 440 Sources on my built 440.been on for years.No problems.I did change springs,retainers,and keepers because of my .588 solid cam.Rocky


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439627
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Originally Posted By dodge turbo
Im already turbo’d small block ...been for years
And it makes close to 700 rwhp

Those are some very impressive results bow
My N/A 518 C.I. low deck pump gas stroker made 727 HP at the flywheel, a little over 500 RWHP, it weighed 3450 Lbs. with me in it and ran a best of 9.993 at 134.7 MPH through the 3.0 inch exhaust with the air cleaner on boogie
Adding 3 to 7.0 lbs of boost on pump swill might have got it into the low tens or high nines, who knows confused
That was a regular non thick web 1976 400 block with four sleeves in it and ductile iron main caps and ARP main studs, no girdle tsk Indy SR M.W. non ported heads with a Indy 400-3 intake and Holley # 9375 non HP Dominator carb. up
I would NOT buy the cheapest rods I could get tsk
On the heads as you already know they can limit how much air can be forced through them, huh work shruggy
Bottom lines is how fast do you want to go and how much money and effort do you want to spend to get thier shruggy
Do it cheap and redo it later to go faster or do it once and go fast right away work grin


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439774
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Originally Posted By dodge turbo
Thinking about ditching my small block turbo set up and going to a 440

And im cheap so looking for ideas

Thanks!


Used, always cheaper than new, initially. grin


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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439839
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Just put better heads on the small block.

Kevin

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: dodge turbo] #2439966
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G3 hemi, best factory blocks, since the turbo is making the power, your goal is buying a block that can live. S/F....Ken M

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: Skeptic] #2440076
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Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By dodge turbo
I wanna go faster

And im cheap



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They make 440s work The things ya learn.


Well they make 383s so..... stirthepot



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Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: hemi_doug] #2440305
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haha So many Chebby guys have no clue that Chrysler built a 383 that wasn't a stroker.

Re: Best bang for the buck 440 heads and rods [Re: Skeptic] #2440352
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Originally Posted By Skeptic
haha So many Chebby guys have no clue that Chrysler built a 383 that wasn't a stroker.



They also built low deck 383's and tall deck 383's, just to be confusing.


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Originally Posted By John Brown
Originally Posted By Skeptic
haha So many Chebby guys have no clue that Chrysler built a 383 that wasn't a stroker.



They also built low deck 383's and tall deck 383's, just to be confusing.
1959 only year made I think, tall deck 383 where I believe 4.0 bore with a 3.75 stroke, the low decks where like all the other normal low deck 383, 4.250 bore with the shorter stroke up
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