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Thermoquad rod Qs #242741
03/04/09 10:54 AM
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Yesterday i checked the rods of my thermoquad strip kit and I found something odd.

If i get it right, the rods consist of three parts: the upper part which is of the same diameter, the middle part that narrows downwards and the lower part that is of the same diameter again.

when comparing the different rods of the strip kit side to side, the middle, narrowing part starts in different locations (lengths) of the rod (hope you understand what i mean).

Am i correct that it is the middle part that is responsible for part throttle mixture?

If so, then wouldnt the rod tree have to be adjusted to the individual rod, so that the beginning of the narrowing part sits in the right spot of the jet?

Am i correct or do i get something wrong?

just trying to understand how this stuff works.

Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: 440sat72] #242742
03/04/09 10:58 AM
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If some of this doesn't get answered I will be in the shop later. I will check.


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Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: Rug_Trucker] #242743
03/04/09 01:27 PM
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The rods are not 3 differeint parts by default, like really depends of the rod model and specs. Diff rods to diff aplication and throttle response. There are rods with steps, rods with slopes, rods allmost straigth down

Check numbers stamped on Rods and will notice that probably you have two diff model of rods, so you are having diff response on each side of carb


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Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: NachoRT74] #242744
03/04/09 01:34 PM
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Quote:

Check numbers stamped on Rods and will notice that probably you have two diff model of rods




Nope, what i meant is when you compare the different rods to each other.

Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: 440sat72] #242745
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i tried to make some pictures, unfortunately its pretty hard to make good pictures of such small parts. those are all different rods, compared next to each other. i hope you can see that the narrowing (middle) part is always in a different location.


Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: 440sat72] #242746
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VERY nice pics .... what type of camera do you have ?

Yes indeed ... there are a few rods like that but they are rare.

Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: 440sat72] #242747
03/04/09 07:43 PM
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Yeh I know what you are talking BUT all those simply looks like non matching sets. Have you checked numbers stamped ?

all sets I have had are totally matched


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Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: NachoRT74] #242748
03/04/09 08:14 PM
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If I understand the OP correctly, yes they are different rods. He was asking about the location of the part throttle step varying between the different sets.

IE: a 1966 set of rods has the part throttle step further up from the WOT step than a different set like a 2159.

It's normal for the steps to vary, I have a few here that have a noticable difference. It allows tuning the carb for better responce and drivability.

I've always found that the tree needed to be tuned to the specific rod for correct operation when switching between numbers.

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Re: Theromquad rod Qs [Re: 78D150CLUB] #242749
03/05/09 09:32 AM
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I don't know t-quads, but if they work somewhat like the AFB's, where the "transition contour" between the wide part of the rod and the narrow part of the rod will determine when you get power enrichement and slightly vary the a/f curve as you go from high vaccuum part throttle to no vaccuum WOT.


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