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#2427387 - 01/01/18 05:52 PM dust boot for lower ball joint
mickm Offline
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I mangled one taking the ball joints off, moog ball joints.

I've been looking at http://www.suspension.com/universal-dust-boots.asp, and I can't find anything that matches.

Does anyone know where to get these boots? I really don't want to buy a whole new ball joint just for a dust boot.
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#2427397 - 01/01/18 06:09 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Ball joint PN?

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Replacement-Screw-In-Ball-Joint-Dust-Boot-Mustang-II-K772-Application,100099.html

fits upper

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#2427479 - 01/01/18 08:48 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Roseville Moparts has a boot seal pkg.listed for $39

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product_...roducts_id/7877

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#2427485 - 01/01/18 09:04 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Some act as merely umbrellas and do not retain the grease like the OEM boots that snap into a machined recess in the ball joint.
Make sure you are buying what you want.

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#2427603 - 01/02/18 01:33 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: DUSTER_340]
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Originally Posted By DUSTER_340
Roseville Moparts has a boot seal pkg.listed for $39

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product_...roducts_id/7877



Nice! I'll call them and see if this will fit the parts I have. will be nice to have spares as well!
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#2427648 - 01/02/18 08:37 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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#2427765 - 01/02/18 12:19 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: DUSTER_340]
mickm Offline
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Originally Posted By DUSTER_340
Roseville Moparts has a boot seal pkg.listed for $39

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product_...roducts_id/7877



unfortunately, they are back ordered and don't know when they will be in. Mancini apparently has a kit, $99. Still looking...
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#2427766 - 01/02/18 12:19 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: solarguy]
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Originally Posted By solarguy


These aren't the correct dimensions from what I can see. I looked at the Heidts website, and they don't even list Chrysler in the product list.


Edited by mickm (01/02/18 12:25 PM)
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#2427778 - 01/02/18 12:44 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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#2427781 - 01/02/18 12:46 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Have you checked the Dorman help section of the local parts store. They do have a selection of replacement boots and you might find what you need.

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#2427796 - 01/02/18 01:08 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: stumpy]
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Originally Posted By stumpy
Have you checked the Dorman help section of the local parts store. They do have a selection of replacement boots and you might find what you need.


I will give that a try, thanks!
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#2427867 - 01/02/18 03:12 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Wow, this is getting to be a bummer, and taking a lot of time.

A well stocked local store had nothing. I tried looking up Moog itself, hoping to talk with someone and see if I can get a boot, but I can't even find them on the web, only independent dealers selling moog.

I'm getting close to saying f*ck it, and just buying another.
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#2427883 - 01/02/18 03:33 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Well, I did get hold of someone at moog. He is sending me a dust boot, but it isn't the exact one that the ball joint comes with, so it's a shot in the dark. If it works, I'm done, but otherwise it's a new ball joint!
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#2427940 - 01/02/18 05:10 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Would an original fit? Frank Baldason has some of those.

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#2427957 - 01/02/18 05:57 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Something I've experienced with Moog dust boots the last few years is they don't last anymore. Within a year they are cracking and falling apart. And this is on cars that get 2,000 miles a year at most. Might want to consider urethane if you can find.
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#2427971 - 01/02/18 06:27 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: 71birdJ68]
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Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
Would an original fit? Frank Baldason has some of those.


Yes, I just found them. Like Mancini, $100 for the kit. Probably wouldn't be bad to have spares around. Going to be $50 for a new ball joint, maybe I'll do this.


Edited by mickm (01/02/18 06:40 PM)
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#2428030 - 01/02/18 07:53 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Mickm,

I was rummaging through a cabinet in my garage today and came across a bag of dust boots. From what I can remember I think I pulled these off Moog parts and used the poly ones I bought as a kit. I have 4 ea of three different sizes. The small ones I'm pretty sure are tie rod ends. The middle size has "Mount Inboard" with an arrow and #7177 (openings 1.5" x 3/4" - just like the two top ones in the Roseville picture). The larger ones just have #7031 and have a small squared notch on the small opening (openings 1.75" x 3/4"). If you think one of these will work for you then I can drop them in the mail.

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#2428050 - 01/02/18 08:43 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: 68jim]
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Good luck! Often a replacement ball joint will have the generic umbrella type also. I use that, or a generic umbrella cover from the help section or a poly boot and grease each oil change.

If you find something better please post it.

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#2428144 - 01/03/18 12:02 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: 68jim]
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Originally Posted By 68jim
Mickm,

I was rummaging through a cabinet in my garage today and came across a bag of dust boots. From what I can remember I think I pulled these off Moog parts and used the poly ones I bought as a kit. I have 4 ea of three different sizes. The small ones I'm pretty sure are tie rod ends. The middle size has "Mount Inboard" with an arrow and #7177 (openings 1.5" x 3/4" - just like the two top ones in the Roseville picture). The larger ones just have #7031 and have a small squared notch on the small opening (openings 1.75" x 3/4"). If you think one of these will work for you then I can drop them in the mail.


Whoa! That's the one!!! I'll PM you!
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#2428151 - 01/03/18 12:17 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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It's your lucky day Mick.
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#2428156 - 01/03/18 12:45 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: RapidRobert]
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Originally Posted By RapidRobert
It's your lucky day Mick.


That it most certainly seems to be! grin
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#2428241 - 01/03/18 09:43 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: larrymopar360]
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Originally Posted By larrymopar360
Something I've experienced with Moog dust boots the last few years is they don't last anymore. Within a year they are cracking and falling apart. And this is on cars that get 2,000 miles a year at most. Might want to consider urethane if you can find.


i have been dealing with this issue for almost 10 years now. and while i used to have the utmost respect for moog parts, i have been severely disappointed by them. it seems more imported stuff coming from them, and you can't seem to even get matching castings any more. and trying to get replacement boots that last is a joke ! moog used to be the high standard, but not for many years now. i don't know what to recommend any more. if the stuff continues as it is, a guy may as well just buy the cheapest part out there, because you will be back to replace it or the boot every year or so anyway. to say i'm disappointed and unhappy about this is an understatement.
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#2428249 - 01/03/18 10:06 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: mickm]
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Took a baby bottle nipple and used some RTV and attached it to a torn one once. Not the best solution, but worked.

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#2428275 - 01/03/18 10:57 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: SIX225]
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Originally Posted By SIX225
Took a baby bottle nipple and used some RTV and attached it to a torn one once. Not the best solution, but worked.


There's always another way! up
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#2428296 - 01/03/18 11:35 AM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: moparx]
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Originally Posted By moparx
Originally Posted By larrymopar360
Something I've experienced with Moog dust boots the last few years is they don't last anymore. Within a year they are cracking and falling apart. And this is on cars that get 2,000 miles a year at most. Might want to consider urethane if you can find.


i have been dealing with this issue for almost 10 years now. and while i used to have the utmost respect for moog parts, i have been severely disappointed by them. it seems more imported stuff coming from them, and you can't seem to even get matching castings any more. and trying to get replacement boots that last is a joke ! moog used to be the high standard, but not for many years now. i don't know what to recommend any more. if the stuff continues as it is, a guy may as well just buy the cheapest part out there, because you will be back to replace it or the boot every year or so anyway. to say i'm disappointed and unhappy about this is an understatement.
beer
Yep, not just the dust boots unfortunately. I was able to call Moog (Google search), and provide a part number, and they were able to tell me country of manufacture for each part when I was rebuilding my front end. I was lucky with my old Diplomat Police car a few years ago and all were US manufactured parts. This is no guarantee of quality of course, and the dust boots still fell apart, but it was better than nothing. But I'm with you; Moog like so many other manufacturers has really dropped off in past ten years or so. Sad. Add Craftsman tools to the list. Junk.
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#2428503 - 01/03/18 06:33 PM Re: dust boot for lower ball joint [Re: larrymopar360]
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I sent the parts out today - should be there by Saturday-ish.

Hope it all works out.

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