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#2408340 - 11/24/17 02:56 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: rb446]
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I still enjoy those even better in the 1/4

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#2409535 - 11/27/17 09:09 AM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: cgall]
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Originally Posted By cgall
superchuck, there is no evidence to back up anything you said. There have been articles written that showed that it takes longer to run a 1/8th mile program on a big track like Summit, as the cars slow down and coast a long way to the first turnout.

The main reason the points chasers like 1/8th mile is that the bracket finals is 1/8th. The track is happy because they get a discount on insurance if the cars go less than 150 MPH.


My feet are my evidence. I spend more time in the staging lanes on them when we run 1/4 mile.

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#2409736 - 11/27/17 04:17 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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I'm not an 1/8th mile guy, but it's going to take over most of the sport, like what 9 ball pool did to a game of pool.
, Lets face it 1/8 is much more exciting, a 12 second street car is still fast on the street, but at the 1/4 track...it's boring as H.E.Doubl3e hockey sticks.... in the 1/8 mile the dimwits don't have time to tweet about their "drag Race Experience while doing their "drag race" experience

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#2409761 - 11/27/17 05:15 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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I really enjoy the 1/8 mile. my car is built for 1/4 but I will take the 1/8 mile times all day.
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#2409781 - 11/27/17 05:54 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: Kid-Dart]
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My only question is do they CHARGE less
since your only racing on half of the
track.. this is my money.. if they charge
the same then they are ripping me off
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#2409840 - 11/27/17 07:44 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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I run both. I don't care for the 1/8. As far as running the program quicker? Do the math. Same amount of cars and they are slower past the 1/8. How could it ever be a quicker program?
Doug

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#2409845 - 11/27/17 07:51 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: dvw]
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Originally Posted By dvw
I run both. I don't care for the 1/8. As far as running the program quicker? Do the math. Same amount of cars and they are slower past the 1/8. How could it ever be a quicker program?
Doug
Agree 100 percent

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#2410022 - 11/28/17 06:46 AM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
1974 474 Duster Offline
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Registered: 01/20/08
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They are still charging the same as far as they show on there page. So again another turn off to the budget racer. My question is will outside events be regulated to 1/8 mile. If the promoters want 1/4 mile racing will it be offered. None of that has been answered. Hate to say it, looks like drag racing is quickly going away for guys who just want to see what there cars are capable of in the 1/4 mile. Not all tracks mind you, Quaker does run Top class 1/8 mile, but on Fridays they offer 1/4 mile w/gamblers races. So that appears to be the direction I will follow.
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#2410027 - 11/28/17 07:25 AM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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I am sure they would still run test and tune 1/4 mile. Lots of 1/8th mile racing on 1/4 mile tracks around here, but test and tune is still done 1/4 mile.
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#2410054 - 11/28/17 08:59 AM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: dvw]
superchuck Offline
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Originally Posted By dvw
I run both. I don't care for the 1/8. As far as running the program quicker? Do the math. Same amount of cars and they are slower past the 1/8. How could it ever be a quicker program?
Doug


Less oil downs and cars being towed off the track. Were you at MMW this year? Remember the guy that oiled down both lanes because be broke but stayed in it and kept switching lanes..... all the way down? Pepperidge farms remembers

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#2410079 - 11/28/17 09:49 AM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: superchuck]
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Less oil downs and cars being towed off the track. Were you at MMW this year? Remember the guy that oiled down both lanes because be broke but stayed in it and kept switching lanes..... all the way down? Pepperidge farms remembers [/quote]


Yes I was there. It had nothing to do with the race being 1/8 or 1/4. He started oiling right from the hit. Same story at MMW Kentucky. A car oiled right from the hit. Neither car should have been still rolling down the track after a few hundred feet. So a couple of people who should know better caused the delay. Both of them would've oiled the entire length even if it was an 1/8th as they continued right through the shutdown area.
Doug

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#2412351 - 12/02/17 04:38 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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Hey Max,
I am with you. I am not interested in racing 1/8 mile. It's all over just as it's just getting started. As for all of you complaining about breakage? If you can't afford to go faster, run a slower car!!! As for 1/4 racing I don't know what Norwalk is doing but as long as 42 and Quaker City have their T&T nights with the 1/4 mile gambler races I'll be there. Due to the fact that I am now involved in this industry I will not go 1/8 mile racing until I have too. Max, I just got back from TN. last week. I was there to film a segment about my transmission blanket (robinhoodblankets.com) for Performance TV & Motor Head Garage which will be aired next year.

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#2412704 - 12/03/17 01:54 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: RHB]
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Most of the tracks here in the N.J. area are 1/4 mile and i haven`t heard of any of them converting to 1/8 mile. At my local/home track Super /Pro runs 1,000 ft. all other classes are 1/4 mile due to a short shut down area. On occasion we have ran 1/8 mile due to track conditions its not too bad, but its over quick when you are used to 1/4 mile. I run at South Mountain during Chryslers at Carlisle which is 1/8 mile and have been pretty successful there always enjoying it but thats In my low 15 second (1/4 mile) 9.70-80s ( 1/8 mile) pickup.


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#2413120 - 12/04/17 01:00 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 11secdart]
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Just my dumba$$ comments, but 1/8 mile feels like a street race from a stoplight where there isn't enough room to let it eat. Then you go to a 1/4 mile track and can really let it go wide out.

I know there have been lots of successful 1/8 mile programs at various tracks over the years, and the grudge race scene seems to thrive on it. But unless I built a car specifically for 660', I'm always going to prefer a 1320' pass (for whatever reasons, rational or not). It's not debatable, it's an opinion.
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#2413342 - 12/04/17 09:13 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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I prefer 1/4 but Ill run at an 1/8 mile race, from what Ive seen 1/8 mile guys dial soft and are pedaling at the finish just as much as quarter mile guys, may not be that way in Michigan DVW, most top end stripe driving comes from being off on the 60' times anyway and the reaction time. Only time my car is off on the last 1/8 is usually wind related, 660 to 1320 are really consistent otherwise.
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#2413394 - 12/04/17 10:58 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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What Max said is dead on. I love the top end charge of a Hemi.
I have and will race 1/8 mile, because I always know there is a 1/4 race in the future to look forward to. If F.A.S.T. or Drag Week was changed to 1/8 mile, and I only had 1/8 tracks around here, I'd quit.
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#2413764 - 12/05/17 04:33 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: BradH]
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As an add-on to my previous comments, I was watching some YT videos last night of the SO crew (and others) doing a bunch of 1/8-mile races at a couple of different tracks. They'd launch, and just when I'd be waiting to see if someone had the power to run down the person in front... it was already over. I can't go as far as to say "660 Sucks", but it's certainly missing something in my mind... which I guess is the last 1/2 of the track.
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#2413806 - 12/05/17 05:39 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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In Street Outlaws, they make a 4-5 second half a race seem like 20 seconds the way they chop it up and repeat it 1/2 second at a time 40 times. That's why I don't watch it. You put up with 20 minutes of stupid bs just to see a race, then you never see the whole race. It's like they strapped a bunch of cameras to the backs of squirrels and turned them loose on the track to film it. If they ran a 1/4 mile, maybe they could just show the whole race.
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#2421394 - 12/20/17 09:23 AM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster]
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I’m beginning to plan time off at work for 2018 which includes taking time off for racing events some of which are at Norwalk.

Not in all cases, but for some, if the events are going to be cut down to 1/8 mile, I plan on skipping the events.

My interpretation of what has been listed on this thread and Norwalk’s web site is that the decision to go to 1/8-mile racing only effects the Edelbrock Super Series but, I was not 100% sure.

I decided to e-mail one of the race operations people at Norwalk (Evan Bader) to confirm what events may or may not be affected; here is the reply that I received: (FYI- I did mention some specific events in my e-mail so; he addressed some of the events that I mentioned)

“These changes are for the Edelbrock Super Series, but could impact how some of the other outside promoters choose to run their event. That being said I believe events like Monster Mopar and Pontiac will remain 1/4 mile, but that decision is up to the promoter. NMCA I would assume will defer to our track rules for their bracket program so that race I feel has a better chance of being run 1/8 mile than 1/4 mile.

Long story short I do not think it will change too many events, just our Edelbrock Super Series.”

Figured I’d share this here so everyone is informed.

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#2421490 - 12/20/17 01:42 PM Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: parksr5]
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For some reason that I cannot really figure out, the bracket guys seem to love the 8th mile stuff.

They say it's a quicker program, but I don't see it. You've still got to get down to the end to turn off. And, to watch, there isn't enough of it to really get into it, anyway. not that bracket racing is a big spectator draw, anyway. But, I guess to each his own and if that's the way it's going to be, so be it.

Personally, I'd rather eat a bowl of ground glass. If it ever got to the point where 8th was all that was available, I guess that would be my cue to park everything and hang out at car shows with the rest of the geezers.


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