Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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Did anyone else see Norwalk will only be running 1/8 mile for Pro & Super Pro next season?? This is a result of a Finish Line Club survey of some sort. With a facility that nice that can handle TF & FC they are running only 1/8 mile. Looks like I will not be patronizing that track anymore. What a disappointment for many other racers I'm sure. Please I think we need to let them know how we feel or is it just me. Thank You, Ken Michalik http://www.summitmotorsportspark.com/#4
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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They surveyed the weekly points guys. I dont doubt they like 1/8. If monster Mopar were to go that way i would be done. Most occasional racers like 1/4 mile
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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They did that hear a few years ago, they run the sportsman class 1/4 mile but the money classes run 1/8th. I prefer to test and tune 1/4 mile but I have grown OK with 1/8 mile bracket racing.
I can't recall what norwalks shutdown is like because I only made one pass in 2016 on drag week but I am sure it is like here. Here we have to drive 1/4 mile to get off the track after making an 1/8 mile pass. It is easy on brakes at least.
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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Its leaning that way everywhere Ken. Your local track Quaker City runs their box class 1/8 mile. Keystone switched their box class to 1/8 mile too after a dragster lost his brakes and totaled his race car. Funny thing is I have to run 1/8 mile (9.40's) and there are a couple of 8 second door cars in no box class. LOL. Not sure but I think Dragway 42 switched to 1/8 mile for their box class too but I'm not positive on that one. I've gotten used to it at the bigger races so its not an issue to me. The faster your care is the more fun 1/8 mile racing is for me. Racing by myself and having to pack a chute would make it seem like work. At least Norwalk passed out a survey and took a vote.
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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11/22/17 04:46 PM
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superchuck, there is no evidence to back up anything you said. There have been articles written that showed that it takes longer to run a 1/8th mile program on a big track like Summit, as the cars slow down and coast a long way to the first turnout.
The main reason the points chasers like 1/8th mile is that the bracket finals is 1/8th. The track is happy because they get a discount on insurance if the cars go less than 150 MPH. I’m sorry to tell you this but you are totally wrong. The second both cars are staged the next pair in the box are told its time to heat your tires. No one is waiting for anyone to get off the track unless one of the cars in front of him breaks. I race almost every weekend and have seen the proof. At this years Halloween Classic every class had first round in before trick or treating started for the kids at 8 pm and we got a late start because of rain. 1000-1100 cars
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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[quote=cgall]superchuck, there is no evidence to back up anything you said. There have been articles written that showed that it takes longer to run a 1/8th mile program on a big track like Summit, as the cars slow down and coast a long way to the first turnout.
The main reason the points chasers like 1/8th mile is that the bracket finals is 1/8th. The track is happy because they get a discount on insurance if the cars go less than 150 MPH. I’m sorry to tell you this but you are totally wrong. The second both cars are staged the next pair in the box are told its time to heat your tires. No one is waiting for anyone to get off the track unless one of the cars in front of him breaks. I race almost every weekend and have seen the proof. At this years Halloween Classic every class had first round in before trick or treating started for the kids at 8 pm and we got a late start because of rain. 1000-1100 cars Sorry to disagree, but I also race every weekend and travel a lot for races. on a 1/8 mile track the program will run quicker. On a 1/4 mile track without a turn off for 1/8 mile racing it will always make the program run longer. I have never seen a 1/4 mile track running 1/8 mile send cars with others still on track. Most cars are coasting after the 1/8 mile.
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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Norwalk has a long 1/2 shutdown so 3/4 mile on 1/8 mile races and you will never convince me that an 1/8 mile program isn’t quicker to run. Sorry but it’s true. Less track to prep, less engines blowing up from prolonged rpm.
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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Norwalk has a long 1/2 shutdown so 3/4 mile on 1/8 mile races and you will never convince me that an 1/8 mile program isn’t quicker to run. Sorry but it’s true. Less track to prep, less engines blowing up from prolonged rpm. OK John.... You do the math. You run your car 1/8 mile in 6 seconds and get out of the gas and coast to the end = you said 3/4 mile. I run my car 1/4 mile at 9 seconds and coast to the end = you said 1/2 mile. Who gets off the track FIRST??? NOT you pal no matter what you say the numbers do not work. Next = Prolonged RPM??? So when only running 1/8 mile you are not changing gears and pushing you engine as hard as anyone running 1/8 mile - WRONG!!! What RPM do you shift at? Do you shift lower because you don't want to push the limits of the engine? There are some FAST 1/8 mile cars and they are built and geared for that. That's why there are many that do not want to run 1/4 mile if they mostly run only 1/8 mile. Apparently some have issues with maintaining a car to run 1/4 mile but can if they only run 1/8 mile? Apparently you did not build it good enough. Lets just wussify everything we do in life to make it easier on the cup cakes. Play 1/2 a football game = less bodily injuries and game is over faster to get to the bar. Play 1/2 a baseball game = less prep for the game and it's over faster to get to the bar. Run 1/2 of the Indy 500 so less wrecks and tire usage and it's over faster to get to the bar. School only 1/2 days so kids brains are not over worked and it's over quicker so they can get in trouble faster - LOL Only go 1/2 way with your spouse so it's over quicker - see how that works for you! You get the point ---- it's not being done the way it was INTENDED>
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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Trust me I didn’t like it either, at first. But two years in a row I lost at 16 cars at 4am on Thursday night at the Halloween Classic. Now Racing is over around midnight. As the two cars heat their tires the other guys are going down the track. Zero waiting going on. I like to brag about my 1/4 mile times as much or more than anyone but now I will have to lay those numbers down on test n tune nights. If I had a 7 second 1/8 mile car I would quit tomorrow but I don’t and won’t.
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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As the two cars heat their tires the other guys are going down the track. Zero waiting going on.
So the other years the starting line people were not on the ball??? They can warm their tires but still are not to leave until the other cars are off the track and I would get off sooner then you.
Yes I hate 1/8 mile and I will park my car if I can't run 1/4 mile. Well you make three guys that told me they will quit including Kenny All Moparts members too
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile
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11/23/17 12:39 AM
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While I prefer 1/4 mile I definitely will not quit just because most tracks are going to 1/8. Like you said there are T&T nights and and still at least 1 track by me that is 1/4 if I want to drive there.
But what will happen is if the tracks that used to be 1/4 but switched to 1/8 is further away I will just go to the closer track. I will only go to Summit Motorsports for special events and probably the same for Dragway 42. I have another 1/8 mile track closer that I enjoy going to so thats who will get my money.
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