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Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile #2407246
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Did anyone else see Norwalk will only be running 1/8 mile for Pro & Super Pro next season?? This is a result of a Finish Line Club survey of some sort. With a facility that nice that can handle TF & FC they are running only 1/8 mile. Looks like I will not be patronizing that track anymore. What a disappointment for many other racers I'm sure. Please I think we need to let them know how we feel or is it just me.
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I like 1/8 mile better. Less oil downs, less mustangs smacking into walls, faster clean up time, less wear and tear on the car.

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My understanding is that they surveyed the racers and this is what the racers wanted.

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They surveyed the weekly points guys. I dont doubt they like 1/8.
If monster Mopar were to go that way i would be done.
Most occasional racers like 1/4 mile


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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster] #2407296
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They did that hear a few years ago, they run the sportsman class 1/4 mile but the money classes run 1/8th. I prefer to test and tune 1/4 mile but I have grown OK with 1/8 mile bracket racing.

I can't recall what norwalks shutdown is like because I only made one pass in 2016 on drag week but I am sure it is like here. Here we have to drive 1/4 mile to get off the track after making an 1/8 mile pass. It is easy on brakes at least.


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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster] #2407307
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All the big money races around here and down south are 1/8th mile. Our track does an 1/8th mile and 1/4 mile series and the 1/8th mile series has atleast 1.5 times more cars. Its easier on equipment, the program runs quicker, when something does happens the clean ups are shorter. Some people like the 1/4 for the extra speed, I prefer the 1/8th because you get to glance at your opponent once and have to make a decision off your gut for the finish line without time to think about it..over thinking - the best way to loose lost of races

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Its leaning that way everywhere Ken. Your local track Quaker City runs their box class 1/8 mile. Keystone switched their box class to 1/8 mile too after a dragster lost his brakes and totaled his race car. Funny thing is I have to run 1/8 mile (9.40's) and there are a couple of 8 second door cars in no box class. LOL. Not sure but I think Dragway 42 switched to 1/8 mile for their box class too but I'm not positive on that one. I've gotten used to it at the bigger races so its not an issue to me. The faster your care is the more fun 1/8 mile racing is for me. Racing by myself and having to pack a chute would make it seem like work. At least Norwalk passed out a survey and took a vote.


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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster] #2407430
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superchuck, there is no evidence to back up anything you said. There have been articles written that showed that it takes longer to run a 1/8th mile program on a big track like Summit, as the cars slow down and coast a long way to the first turnout.

The main reason the points chasers like 1/8th mile is that the bracket finals is 1/8th. The track is happy because they get a discount on insurance if the cars go less than 150 MPH.

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Originally Posted By cgall
superchuck, there is no evidence to back up anything you said. There have been articles written that showed that it takes longer to run a 1/8th mile program on a big track like Summit, as the cars slow down and coast a long way to the first turnout.

The main reason the points chasers like 1/8th mile is that the bracket finals is 1/8th. The track is happy because they get a discount on insurance if the cars go less than 150 MPH.



I’m sorry to tell you this but you are totally wrong. The second both cars are staged the next pair in the box are told its time to heat your tires. No one is waiting for anyone to get off the track unless one of the cars in front of him breaks. I race almost every weekend and have seen the proof. At this years Halloween Classic every class had first round in before trick or treating started for the kids at 8 pm and we got a late start because of rain. 1000-1100 cars


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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: 1974 474 Duster] #2407522
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Well all I can say is I will not race 1/8 mile ever. If that's what it comes too then I will build a show car. 1/8 mile racing is the craps!!! Hate everything about it, as said/stated before the tracks just want the insurance discount. Racing is supposed to be a 1/4 mile. That's what it was designed for from the beginning.
Thank You, Ken Michalik
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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: pittsburghracer] #2407523
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
[quote=cgall]superchuck, there is no evidence to back up anything you said. There have been articles written that showed that it takes longer to run a 1/8th mile program on a big track like Summit, as the cars slow down and coast a long way to the first turnout.

The main reason the points chasers like 1/8th mile is that the bracket finals is 1/8th. The track is happy because they get a discount on insurance if the cars go less than 150 MPH.



I’m sorry to tell you this but you are totally wrong. The second both cars are staged the next pair in the box are told its time to heat your tires. No one is waiting for anyone to get off the track unless one of the cars in front of him breaks. I race almost every weekend and have seen the proof. At this years Halloween Classic every class had first round in before trick or treating started for the kids at 8 pm and we got a late start because of rain. 1000-1100 cars




Sorry to disagree, but I also race every weekend and travel a lot for races. on a 1/8 mile track the program will run quicker. On a 1/4 mile track without a turn off for 1/8 mile racing it will always make the program run longer. I have never seen a 1/4 mile track running 1/8 mile send cars with others still on track. Most cars are coasting after the 1/8 mile.

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i am sorry you feel that way , lucky we all live in a area that have has many tracks to choose from many racers have no track to go to any more

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Norwalk has a long 1/2 shutdown so 3/4 mile on 1/8 mile races and you will never convince me that an 1/8 mile program isn’t quicker to run. Sorry but it’s true. Less track to prep, less engines blowing up from prolonged rpm.


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Re: Norwalk 2018 only 1/8 mile [Re: pittsburghracer] #2407556
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Norwalk has a long 1/2 shutdown so 3/4 mile on 1/8 mile races and you will never convince me that an 1/8 mile program isn’t quicker to run. Sorry but it’s true. Less track to prep, less engines blowing up from prolonged rpm.



OK John.... You do the math.

You run your car 1/8 mile in 6 seconds and get out of the gas and coast to the end = you said 3/4 mile.


I run my car 1/4 mile at 9 seconds and coast to the end = you said 1/2 mile.

Who gets off the track FIRST??? NOT you pal no matter what you say the numbers do not work.

Next = Prolonged RPM??? So when only running 1/8 mile you are not changing gears and pushing you engine as hard as anyone running 1/8 mile - WRONG!!! What RPM do you shift at? Do you shift lower because you don't want to push the limits of the engine? There are some FAST 1/8 mile cars and they are built and geared for that. That's why there are many that do not want to run 1/4 mile if they mostly run only 1/8 mile. Apparently some have issues with maintaining a car to run 1/4 mile but can if they only run 1/8 mile? Apparently you did not build it good enough.

Lets just wussify everything we do in life to make it easier on the cup cakes.

Play 1/2 a football game = less bodily injuries and game is over faster to get to the bar.
Play 1/2 a baseball game = less prep for the game and it's over faster to get to the bar.
Run 1/2 of the Indy 500 so less wrecks and tire usage and it's over faster to get to the bar.
School only 1/2 days so kids brains are not over worked and it's over quicker so they can get in trouble faster - LOL
Only go 1/2 way with your spouse so it's over quicker - see how that works for you!

You get the point ---- it's not being done the way it was INTENDED>

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Trust me I didn’t like it either, at first. But two years in a row I lost at 16 cars at 4am on Thursday night at the Halloween Classic. Now Racing is over around midnight. As the two cars heat their tires the other guys are going down the track. Zero waiting going on. I like to brag about my 1/4 mile times as much or more than anyone but now I will have to lay those numbers down on test n tune nights. If I had a 7 second 1/8 mile car I would quit tomorrow but I don’t and won’t.


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As the two cars heat their tires the other guys are going down the track. Zero waiting going on.


So the other years the starting line people were not on the ball??? They can warm their tires but still are not to leave until the other cars are off the track and I would get off sooner then you.

Yes I hate 1/8 mile and I will park my car if I can't run 1/4 mile.

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Originally Posted By max_maniac
As the two cars heat their tires the other guys are going down the track. Zero waiting going on.


So the other years the starting line people were not on the ball??? They can warm their tires but still are not to leave until the other cars are off the track and I would get off sooner then you.

Yes I hate 1/8 mile and I will park my car if I can't run 1/4 mile.




Well you make three guys that told me they will quit including Kenny
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While I prefer 1/4 mile I definitely will not quit just because most tracks are going to 1/8. Like you said there are T&T nights and and still at least 1 track by me that is 1/4 if I want to drive there.

But what will happen is if the tracks that used to be 1/4 but switched to 1/8 is further away I will just go to the closer track. I will only go to Summit Motorsports for special events and probably the same for Dragway 42. I have another 1/8 mile track closer that I enjoy going to so thats who will get my money.


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Max Maniac, ya hit the nail right on the head! I mean right on the head. If NSS goes to the 1/8, well, that would be tough to stay with it.

I would comment more, but, I wanna save my keyboard keys........

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