Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Dragula]
#2402841
11/13/17 12:41 AM
11/13/17 12:41 AM
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GoodysGotaCuda
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Price isn't bad for what it is but the part is massive and quite hard to look at....however, in a racecar, it's not much of a deterrent. There isn't much need for a sequential on a "street car", to me.
Offering a gear counter would be nice. My ECU will give me a calculated gear indicator, but a non-EFI car wouldn't give that feedback. It's not vital, but nice to have.
If I was in the market, I'd like to know what their plan is for not needing a clutch before I trashed a set of syncros. I am not sure how a shifter assembly could overcome that, even with a shift cut input to an ECU.
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Dragula]
#2403029
11/13/17 02:37 PM
11/13/17 02:37 PM
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Grizzly
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Salem
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Crude set-up to what's been in Class 8 Trucks for over 20 years now. I might have missed it if they offer it, but it needs to be run with Drive-By-Wire to work precisely. Otherwise, you gotta be awful good with the skinny pedal (yeah, no matter how great you think you are at rev-matching a computer is better). Get behind the wheel of an Eaton Auto-Shift before you Guys make judgment on this idea. Drivers laughed at these when they came out; now almost every truck on the road is Autoshift.
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Grizzly]
#2403132
11/13/17 05:45 PM
11/13/17 05:45 PM
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5.7L Hemi, 6spd
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Crude set-up to what's been in Class 8 Trucks for over 20 years now. I might have missed it if they offer it, but it needs to be run with Drive-By-Wire to work precisely. Otherwise, you gotta be awful good with the skinny pedal (yeah, no matter how great you think you are at rev-matching a computer is better). Get behind the wheel of an Eaton Auto-Shift before you Guys make judgment on this idea. Drivers laughed at these when they came out; now almost every truck on the road is Autoshift. The Eaton is nice for a tractor but is nothing really worth mentioning in a race application. They are still quite slow, but obviously have a significant amount of inertia to deal with. We have a very large portion of our build as AMTs .
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Dragula]
#2403273
11/13/17 10:56 PM
11/13/17 10:56 PM
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Grizzly
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Salem
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Yeah, I guess Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, and Eaton are all doing wrong, huh? So, this is what replaces the stick on top of the transmission in an 18 speed, it's called and "x y shifter". You take off with the clutch and this little box does all the shifting for you in milliseconds. No gear grinding at all, it always gets it right.
Mo' Farts
Moderated by "tbagger".
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
#2403287
11/13/17 11:27 PM
11/13/17 11:27 PM
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Posts: 21,823 Kirkland, Washington
Pacnorthcuda
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Crude set-up to what's been in Class 8 Trucks for over 20 years now. I might have missed it if they offer it, but it needs to be run with Drive-By-Wire to work precisely. Otherwise, you gotta be awful good with the skinny pedal (yeah, no matter how great you think you are at rev-matching a computer is better). Get behind the wheel of an Eaton Auto-Shift before you Guys make judgment on this idea. Drivers laughed at these when they came out; now almost every truck on the road is Autoshift. The Eaton is nice for a tractor but is nothing really worth mentioning in a race application. They are still quite slow, but obviously have a significant amount of inertia to deal with. We have a very large portion of our build as AMTs . Goody; automatic transmissions (as in Allisons) or Autoshift? On the KW side about 85-90 percent is still manual (and not Autoshift) and about 10-15 percent Allisons.
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Dragula]
#2403314
11/14/17 12:14 AM
11/14/17 12:14 AM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,003 Salem
Grizzly
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Salem
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AMT is an Automated Manual Transmission, there Mother-Trucker. This sequential thing isn't new, bikes have had this since the beginning of time.
Mo' Farts
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Grizzly]
#2403325
11/14/17 12:34 AM
11/14/17 12:34 AM
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Posts: 21,823 Kirkland, Washington
Pacnorthcuda
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AMT is an Automated Manual Transmission, there Mother-Trucker. This sequential thing isn't new, bikes have had this since the beginning of time. Yes, but they are still the minority. Most manuals are still standard. They may becoming the "it shifter" but I don't think it's quite there yet. What do I know, I only watched about 100,000 being built over the last 17 years.
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Re: Manual Trans Guys....Check this out!
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
#2403330
11/14/17 12:40 AM
11/14/17 12:40 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 25,050 Texas
GoodysGotaCuda
5.7L Hemi, 6spd
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5.7L Hemi, 6spd
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 25,050
Texas
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Crude set-up to what's been in Class 8 Trucks for over 20 years now. I might have missed it if they offer it, but it needs to be run with Drive-By-Wire to work precisely. Otherwise, you gotta be awful good with the skinny pedal (yeah, no matter how great you think you are at rev-matching a computer is better). Get behind the wheel of an Eaton Auto-Shift before you Guys make judgment on this idea. Drivers laughed at these when they came out; now almost every truck on the road is Autoshift. The Eaton is nice for a tractor but is nothing really worth mentioning in a race application. They are still quite slow, but obviously have a significant amount of inertia to deal with. We have a very large portion of our build as AMTs . Goody; automatic transmissions (as in Allisons) or Autoshift? On the KW side about 85-90 percent is still manual (and not Autoshift) and about 10-15 percent Allisons. The Allisons are not all that popular for us, naturally they find their way into smaller trucks or vocational applications. We are heavily pushing the AMTs [especially the "PACCAR AMT") along with the column mounted shifter since we do see better fuel economy by removing some of the driver input. I'd have to take a gander and the build mix, but there is a steady decrease in linehaul manuals.
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