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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390741
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Has anyone ever seen someone blow up a front drum WITH an LBA valve body, using manual low?


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: Dave Hall] #2390761
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
Those pics are excellent by the way... whistling


Mike is the best track photographer. We are lucky to have him!

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: J_BODY] #2390762
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Btw.... 904 trans doesn't have the mass of the 727. No worries there smile


I have a 904 in my '65 Dart. I was going to ask if anyone has ever heard of a 904 blowing up?

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390763
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It's kind of funny a year ago I posted the question about using a turbo 400 behind my big block and was told to stick with the 727 even by Monty.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: Iowan] #2390783
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Originally Posted By Iowan
It's kind of funny a year ago I posted the question about using a turbo 400 behind my big block and was told to stick with the 727 even by Monty.
What you got was an opinion and what works for others,Some don't mind doing more work and have the resources.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390806
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Originally Posted By dustergirl340
Originally Posted By J_BODY
Btw.... 904 trans doesn't have the mass of the 727. No worries there smile


I have a 904 in my '65 Dart. I was going to ask if anyone has ever heard of a 904 blowing up?


As J_Body said, the front drum is much smaller. When I was spraying my junk I asked my trans guy if I should put a blanket on it and was told no.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: slantzilla] #2390813
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I talked to Rick Allison yrs ago & told me he never heard of a 904 drum explosion. If u use the proper parts in a race 727 everything will be fine. A shield is good insurance coz anything could happen.

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390851
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My brother is running a push button 727 with all stock parts what all parts should he be looking to upgrade car runs mid to low 11s with a turbo action valve body

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390863
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Well if anything good comes out of this it will be some upgraded transmission parts and hopefully some shields.

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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390874
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That is Any 727 users worst nightmare! I went through my 727 last year, didn’t have the funds for an aftermarket drum, but I do run an LBA valvebody, a bolt in sprag, and a blanket just in case. There’s no way to make this hobby completely danger-proof though. As soon as you have your explosion proof transmission figured out, there’s a litany of other perils waiting for you. At some point, you do your best and get on with it.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390876
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How fast you are really has little bearing on whether you need "good" parts.

A stone stock /6 has the capability of exploding a 727 drum if the sprag fails. It's strictly a product of engine RPM X low gear ratio. If the tach can hit 5000 in neutral you have the potential for disaster.

Kevin

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: J_BODY] #2390888
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Btw.... 904 trans doesn't have the mass of the 727. No worries there smile


True. But when we ran one, I still didn't want to break it due to stupid. It was in second when I came out the front of the lanes.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: Adobedude] #2390911
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Originally Posted By Adobedude

Low band apply valve body.
Billet steel drum.
Bolt in sprag.


Not just a bolt-in sprag but a Super/Ultimate sprag. The unit I mentioned had a bolt-in and it failed.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: Iowan] #2390949
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Originally Posted By Iowan
It's kind of funny a year ago I posted the question about using a turbo 400 behind my big block and was told to stick with the 727 even by Monty.


GM Trannies explode too IF they are not built right or are abused. Any trans can be a time bomb if abused with the wrong parts.

TH400 exploded.jpgTH 400 exploded.jpg

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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: John_Kunkel] #2390964
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Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
Originally Posted By Adobedude

Low band apply valve body.
Billet steel drum.
Bolt in sprag.


Not just a bolt-in sprag but a Super/Ultimate sprag. The unit I mentioned had a bolt-in and it failed.


Exactly. Standard bolt-in sprags are really no better than stock. Meant as a case saver type part.

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727's Suck! my buddy just put a glide behind his 440 and that just blew.

So what next? G Force but 4 speed's are inconsistent!


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2390998
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The low band apply valve body alone will prevent this problem. I got my B&M LBA pushbotton VB in 72 and the 66 and later version in 74, I'd never part with them.

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2391006
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Originally Posted By SCATPACK 1
Originally Posted By Iowan
It's kind of funny a year ago I posted the question about using a turbo 400 behind my big block and was told to stick with the 727 even by Monty.


GM Trannies explode too IF they are not built right or are abused. Any trans can be a time bomb if abused with the wrong parts.


Th400 main problem is tossing into nuetral across the stripe. Unless you have a valve body deigned to do it. 123n. I currently run one. Easy to build. BOP versions are cheap and plentiful. Personally I have always hated the 2-3 shift on 727's and tweaking the band.


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Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: dustergirl340] #2391013
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Asking this question again for clarification. If one does not have an aftermarket drum and LBA, will launching car in 2nd avoid (for the most part) this issue?

Re: 727 explosion at Milan last night.... [Re: Tempest] #2391015
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A lot of guys do most of the damage on improper tire heating


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