Okay has anyone encounters this I bought a car to restore was parted out years I ago I have the title data plate on the car but they sold the dash outta it is there anyway to get a vin plate for this or am I sol a demon sizzle so I don't wanna stick any time or money in till I figure this out

state issued vin is only legal optuin

Check with your state DMV / BMV to see what they say, laws vary state by state but they can issue replacement VINs.

I am sure that someone will be along directly encourage you to commit a felony & point you to a source for counterfeit tags, but if caught with one the car can be seized.

The legal way is through your state agency.

If you have title and all numbers on car match that title, check with
DataTags.com

And do not post VIN here

Title must be in your name though, be ready to spend good money.

My prediction was right!

Yep

Quote above from the the Hemmings Motor News article at https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2006/07/Steal-of-a-Lifetime-/1301462.html

The 'Colorado man' is mentioned by name in the actual court case & it is a matter of public record. He did admit to making a counterfeit VIN tag to the investigating officer & there are many other interesting details in the criminal court case also, including another fake VIN.

So the best and legal advice is to check with your local motor vehicle agency for a state issued VIN.

Not sure how what about trying to trace the vin number and see if whomever has it will sell it back to you maybe, maybe not worth a try

The problem with hemi cuda tag was it was NEVER a legit vin. That's the criminal intent to swap it from an N to a R code engine.

Send you E body dash in with tag still attached for refurbishing and see if it comes back... LOL Know a couple of people that have had that occur.

JMO, It's not nefarious to get a reproduction VIN tag for a car that one was stolen off of or lost during resto. There is zero criminal intent to defraud anyone.

There are plenty of things that happen that DO defraud, VIN swap, etc.

Have at it.

The court case clearly mentions in all caps "FALSELY MAKE".

'Correct' number or not, not legal to remake a VIN tag.

The rule of thumb is never buy a car that is missing the VIN. It's just a /6 or 318 Demon sizzler , so I would not recommend putting any money in to it .

Greg

Absolutely not true, as mentioned, you need "criminal intent"
If OP has title and car that matches said title, perfectly legal to get VIN made.

Exactly, done all the time, if you have all the proper docs, a repro VIN tag can be made, it's just a piece of tin with numbers on it, not some DNA swab some would like you to think it is

If the OP has all the docs needed, go to www.datatags.com to "inquire" about having a tag made...otherwise just buy some POS matching A body with a clean tag/title and attach as desired

I have said this before. I know of one person that had Chrysler make him up a vin tag for his 1968 B Body Dash. It was done about 20 years ago. So is Chrysler committing a Felon. I can see both sides of this story. But one problem is there are just to many scammers out there doing wrong things with these cars and putting out fraudulent information and over time this information becomes the truth or the history or a vehicle. It has been going on since day one, I know of 4 1970 Hemi Challenger Convertibles that have made up Data Plates and Vin Plates, and they have been around since the late 1970s. I do not know if Barry is correct in this situation but is he wrong either. This is all about ethics and being correct. The hobby has to police itself and at times that is near impossible because these car are all becoming just a bank statement.

Having the title is good reassurance, but then again I've known of places where titles can magically be made to appear.

Before this really goes down that rabbit hole, I'm curious if you'd share: did you buy it assuming it was easy to get the VIN plate made, or did the seller "assure" you it was easy or not needed so you overlooked it?

Any chance vin is on another can and that car owner used a title service?
Maybe the car went through a salvage yard and tag retired as well.
Many "lost" titles are found years down the road.
Did you check the title with the body numbers?
It would sux to put money into a car to find out it already exists someplace else.

IMHO I wouldn't even bother pursuing the "original" VIN designation once it's gone, reassign it another VIN from a "clean" donor...

Bryan, this is a hot topic with legit opinions & concerns on both sides of the topic. Yrs ago, just before Harry P. got busted for fake tags on his 383 cuda & a coronet convert, he hosed me on a $10k Hemi motor deal. Luckily, a few yrs later, I ran across a thread on an E body site where Barry Washington & others were the ones who got the guy busted for his fake Hemi Cuda. Long story short, thanks to Barry, I contacted the DA in NY & got 60% of my money back. Point is Harry P had criminal intent & did defraud for way over $100 grand'.

Later, I put the VIN from a 69 Charger RT SE resto I was having done & totally forgot I put the tag in my bro's safe. I sold the almost done project yrs later & couldn't find the VIN tag, so I called DataTags & he wanted a signed authorization letter from the NHP certifying the car was legit & #'s matched VIN AND that the officer appoved of making a tag for resto purposes, which I did. Think it was $250 back then.

Luckily, 6 mos later, my bro found my tag when cleaning out his safe, so its back on the Charger. Sorry for being long winded here, but here's what I'd do in your situation:
3 yrs ago, I got a 64 426 S 4 spd Belvedere, documented but no fender tag. So I contacted Davw Wise at MMC Detroit & had 2 tags made. One that matched Chyrsler Historical's build records one that said, "real deal, kick ass 426 Belvedere" which I put on the car. So, if you're keeping the Duster, why not get a legit state issued VIN tag and one from Wise that says, "Sizzler" and put that one on the dash?

It was ok to do it in mass. I know a guy that the DMV let him have one made. The car was legit. I thinks its up to the state or its about the money.