Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Mr340]
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09/15/17 05:18 PM
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IF you read the questions under the add, this light will not work with MSD. The first line from 2016 says it will, but the bottom question from 2017 says it will not work.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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09/15/17 05:29 PM
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I don't NEED the dial back, but really bright is essential
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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09/15/17 05:34 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sears-Best-Penske-Clamp-On-Inductive-Pickup-DC-Power-Timing-Light-NEW-/253108056771?hash=item3aee6a72c3:g:wqsAAOSwyWZZQDft
Seriously. I have one of the same old original lights sold by MSD many years ago. It's the only one I use on MSD stuff. Works perfect. If it blew up or got smashed, I would replace it with the same NOS one.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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I don't NEED the dial back, but really bright is essential That can be a problem(brightness) but maybe my eye sight is a bit better.. so far I havent had any issues.. my first Flaming River quit and I bought another.. after checking things the light never quit.. I had so spark on the injection
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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09/15/17 05:53 PM
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This is by far the best timing light period. Twice as bright and twice as accurate as anything else on the market. I have used it for years outside and IMO there is nothing better. There's a reason it cost 3X as much as the flaming river job which is very slow and dull, especially outside. LINK I have used all of these at one point in time and the blue one is not even in the same class as the rest. The blue one is the same as what MSD sells even though MSD does not make it. That tells you something. My blue one was sold to me by French Grimes the magneto guy when he did my mags. It kicks butt and is more accurate and brighter with a more focused light than the rest like I said above. There is nothing better I am telling you.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
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09/15/17 06:20 PM
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IF you read the questions under the add, this light will not work with MSD. The first line from 2016 says it will, but the bottom question from 2017 says it will not work. Either my MSD is malfunctioning or their info is incorrect because it works fine on my vehicle. i bought it about 2 years ago so unless they changed something it should work.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Mr340]
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09/15/17 06:40 PM
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IF you read the questions under the add, this light will not work with MSD. The first line from 2016 says it will, but the bottom question from 2017 says it will not work. Either my MSD is malfunctioning or their info is incorrect because it works fine on my vehicle. i bought it about 2 years ago so unless they changed something it should work. Mine would work intermittent with MSD that was why the change.. plus MSD was saying about a issue
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
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09/15/17 07:01 PM
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My blue one was sold to me by French Grimes
I would not argue with him. Plus MSD sells it. That's good enough for me. My old chrome light is now 2nd choice.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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09/15/17 07:43 PM
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In my experience, the problem with the dial back lights and multi-spark ignitions is...... They "seem" to be working fine, even when they aren't.
I've seen this happen on the dyno a few times where the owner of the motor being tested has brought his timing light with him.
Sometimes the dial back lights agree with the no dial back lights...... Sometimes they don't.
I've seen this play out several times.
No dial back lights and msd for me.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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09/15/17 08:55 PM
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In my experience, the problem with the dial back lights and multi-spark ignitions is...... They "seem" to be working fine, even when they aren't.
I've seen this happen on the dyno a few times where the owner of the motor being tested has brought his timing light with him.
Sometimes the dial back lights agree with the no dial back lights...... Sometimes they don't.
I've seen this play out several times.
No dial back lights and msd for me. Exactly. Ferret Instruments makes very good very bright timing lights. Guess who makes MSD , some Snapon and probably that blue light? Shop for price. It varies a lot. Personally I use a jegs branded flaming river light that I bought on sale for $25. It is not as bright as a good light but because it has no handle I can get it closer to the marks. It does not have dialback but so what, I don't trust them anyway. Almost all aftermarket dampeners are degreed and frankly a timing tape with bright yellow numbers on a black background works very well for me. Super glue both ends of the tape and it will never come off.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: 71birdJ68]
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09/16/17 09:37 AM
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What brand is that blue one? I just looked in my home tool box and my french grimes timing light is at work in my tool box there so no close up pictures at this time. Mine says french grimes on it but made by ferret. Like GomangoCuda said, they are made by ferret instruments for a number of manufactures that want to sell the best.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
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09/16/17 09:39 AM
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I have an old chrome dial back Craftsman that I use at home, I don't have MSD so it works fine and it seemed to work fine when I did have MSD.
I have a flaming river one I take on drag week, its pretty dim but it works in a pinch. I don't check timing much anymore anyways.
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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09/16/17 11:44 AM
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The Flaming River unit I had was junk--so dull you couldn't see it well at midnight and the D Cells were always dead when you needed it most-- I shop Ebay and buy old Mac and sears units from the 60's and 70's Great lights for around $20 so you can have one handy at all times
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Re: Need recommendations for a new timing light
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09/16/17 11:54 AM
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The Flaming River unit I had was junk--so dull you couldn't see it well at midnight and the D Cells were always dead when you needed it most-- I shop Ebay and buy old Mac and sears units from the 60's and 70's Great lights for around $20 so you can have one handy at all times I really like my Flaming River one... love the single wire hook up.. never had a battery issue with it.. I've had the same batteries in it for a few years.. it could be a bit brighter but it works fine
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