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Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: afxcoronet] #234926
02/26/09 06:56 PM
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I enjoy bracket racing, the people, the atmosphere, the corn dogs. I like the idea that being the big dog in the am means nothing in the pm.

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Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: slantzilla] #234927
02/26/09 07:16 PM
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Alexandria, VA
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i come from a racing family, and pretty sure bracket racing is where its at!

its fun watching the big money guys go balls to the wall run after run, but i find bracket racing to be more entertaining.

its guys/ girls like me...

youve got to know your car, know what it will run, you have to be consistent at those times, you cant break out, or go too slow, you have to be almost spot on. and, unlike the big money guys, we race at the big end too! haha

John

Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: 540dust] #234928
02/26/09 07:24 PM
02/26/09 07:24 PM
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I just hope that Bracket Racing can still keep alot of these small tracks going like it has in the past.




Guess we will find out around here. A local track ( 75-80 ) is re-opening (amazing in itself) and the only racing they are going to have is Heads Up Racing and Index Classes..............no bracket racing.


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Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Bill_LBSR] #234929
02/26/09 08:44 PM
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Is 75-80 going to be quarter mile? I had heard rumors it was going to be eighth.


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Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Steve1118] #234930
02/26/09 10:40 PM
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The index classes will be 1/4.

Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Bill_LBSR] #234931
02/27/09 03:46 AM
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I just hope that Bracket Racing can still keep alot of these small tracks going like it has in the past.




Guess we will find out around here. A local track ( 75-80 ) is re-opening (amazing in itself) and the only racing they are going to have is Heads Up Racing and Index Classes..............no bracket racing.




Index classes are bracket racing with your dial already picked for you.


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Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: slantzilla] #234932
02/27/09 08:58 AM
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Bracket racing was!! fun to watch until, throttle stops, and delay boxes came into play, now its just plain boring boring boring, bash away thats my Jack


Yes I live in Michigan, so there is still 1 light on
Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: atoetly] #234933
02/27/09 10:44 AM
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I have been racing off and on for 40 years so I have raced at NHRA events when they ran heads-up and I was there for the conversion to bracket racing. As many of you have stated, cost of racing was the main reason for the switch. Cubic dollars began dominating all the classes and many long-time racers dropped out because they were no longer competitive.

If it weren't for the bracket system, I doubt I would still be racing. Do I like bracket-style racing? No, not really, but it is better than NOT racing.

That being said, the real reason for my post is to present another idea that is being kicked around. An adaption of the Pinks All Out format may be tried and I think it combines the best parts of bracket racing and heads-up. Like Pinks All Out races, the competitors are given two qualifying runs and then the track staff groups them in the "tightest" 16 elapsed times. There could be several of these "tight 16" groups which would produce several classes. Each of these classes would then run all out (with a .05 (?) breakout to prevent qualifier sandbaggers) to determine class winners. There could also be a King of the Hill for the class winners.

There will be cars that won't fit into a "tight 16" group. These cars could compete in a traditional bracket race so that they wouldn't be sent home after making two qulifying passes.

Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Steve1118] #234934
02/27/09 11:34 AM
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Is 75-80 going to be quarter mile? I had heard rumors it was going to be eighth.




Fridays and Saturdays will be 1/8 mile. Sundays will be quarter mile.


LBSR
Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: John] #234935
02/27/09 11:45 AM
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I'm in the minority here, but I have always felt that brackets, especially the mod (IHRA) and Pro (NHRA) could draw spectators at a local level if marketed right. Keep the costs down....don't charge kids, make it affordable for the entire family. Those kids are the future, keep them exposed.

Think about the local track's strengths....the absolute different variety of cars, old MoPars, A bodies, AMC cars, vintage Camaros, Fords, even hot rods and old coupes. Altereds, dragsters, even interesting home built stuff. It's like a car show, only the cars go fast. Newcomers can wander the pits and see the cars close up and talk to the people.

The key is to educate, and for the promotor to promote the stuffing out of the local heavies to the local papers and media outlets. Make heroes out of the local hitters. Keep the program simple....tossing the electronics and throttle stops, even with the breakout the sport is not that hard to understand. Submit articles to the local paper by good writers, with good, well written stories describing close points races, or human interest stories. Promote "special" shows that old guys can relate to, NSS races, Supercharged Warriors, etc. Show the regular folks that there is such a wide gap between NHRA "Championship" racing and what we do it is unbelievable. Show them that they can see racing and racers locally put on a terrific show.....for cheap.

It may take some effort, but it could be done. Perhaps you will never compete with the local Professional baseball team for the spectator gate, but you could increase the interest and the gate substantially. The increased exposure could also create a large number of future racers.

What has gotten me really thinking about this is the phenominal success of shows like Pinks All Out. 38,000 fans were at Norwalk to watch my buddy David Ross win that event with his BGR Charger, a feild full of basically bracket cars. The good racing, the variety of cars, and spectators responded.

It can be done. I know there are many that disagree. But, I have been thinking about this for a long time.....it takes a promotor who is willing to work hard and try it.


"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!"

East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine

www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Steve1118] #234936
02/27/09 12:18 PM
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I want to race at your track! thankfully there are foot-brake classes with-in the bracket classes.

Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Steve1118] #234937
02/27/09 01:58 PM
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Quote:

I'm in the minority here, but I have always felt that brackets, especially the mod (IHRA) and Pro (NHRA) could draw spectators at a local level if marketed right. Keep the costs down....don't charge kids, make it affordable for the entire family. Those kids are the future, keep them exposed.

Think about the local track's strengths....the absolute different variety of cars, old MoPars, A bodies, AMC cars, vintage Camaros, Fords, even hot rods and old coupes. Altereds, dragsters, even interesting home built stuff. It's like a car show, only the cars go fast. Newcomers can wander the pits and see the cars close up and talk to the people.

The key is to educate, and for the promotor to promote the stuffing out of the local heavies to the local papers and media outlets. Make heroes out of the local hitters. Keep the program simple....tossing the electronics and throttle stops, even with the breakout the sport is not that hard to understand. Submit articles to the local paper by good writers, with good, well written stories describing close points races, or human interest stories. Promote "special" shows that old guys can relate to, NSS races, Supercharged Warriors, etc. Show the regular folks that there is such a wide gap between NHRA "Championship" racing and what we do it is unbelievable. Show them that they can see racing and racers locally put on a terrific show.....for cheap.

It may take some effort, but it could be done. Perhaps you will never compete with the local Professional baseball team for the spectator gate, but you could increase the interest and the gate substantially. The increased exposure could also create a large number of future racers.

What has gotten me really thinking about this is the phenominal success of shows like Pinks All Out. 38,000 fans were at Norwalk to watch my buddy David Ross win that event with his BGR Charger, a feild full of basically bracket cars. The good racing, the variety of cars, and spectators responded.

It can be done. I know there are many that disagree. But, I have been thinking about this for a long time.....it takes a promotor who is willing to work hard and try it.


They have this type of show now its called NMCA, its real close to what you outlined. The cost to get in is cheap, I got tickets at NAPA auto parts for free. Jack


Yes I live in Michigan, so there is still 1 light on
Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: 440dart] #234938
02/27/09 02:24 PM
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Yeah, we run NSS, and we intend to give the NMCA event at MG a shot this year.

But, I was speaking of a regular weekly show, at a local track.


"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!"

East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine

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Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: Steve1118] #234939
02/27/09 03:09 PM
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Don't forget to buy-back......deja vu drag racing.

Re: Thank God for bracket racing [Re: RumbleVid] #234940
02/27/09 03:18 PM
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Don't forget to buy-back......deja vu drag racing.




We don't have buy-backs around here.


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