Dana 60 with spool question
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Recently purchased a rotisserie restored 67 Dart street car. Has never been driven. Until today that is. Went about 2 blocks and really felt like I was fighting this car to get it rolling. Car has a 526 Stroker so should be no problem. Dana 60 with Strange spool and 4:56 gear set. Brought it home, jacked up the rear. Rear wheels are VERY hard to turn by hand. Should have done this before but.... Checked rear for the obvious...fluid level. Can see that things look like they have a coating of lube but can't feel any with my pinky. My understanding is the Dana 60 takes 3 quarts. I just put 2 in it til it just started to ooze out of the hole. Checked tranny next. 833 4 speed. Also low. Took about 40 oz and again my research shows about 64oz capacity? Pulled wheels and drums. drums adjusted correctly and emergency brake is not hung up. So my question is (and forgive my ignorance, still learning) is a brand new rear with a spool going to be difficult to turn by hand just in general? Will this eventually loosen up after a break in period? Or should I never drive this again until i have this rear checked for proper shimming and bearing clearances before I break something expensive? If I grab the driveshaft by hand and rotate it it seems to spin more free in reverse than forward direction. A friend of mine drove it down the street after I did and said its fine, that's how a spool is. I ain't buying it.
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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How far did you drive? How fast did you go?
Not far. Couple blocks. Not fast. 20mph down my street.
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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05/24/17 12:10 AM
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I have seen this before when the housing was bent. Pull one axle out and then try it until you figure out which side it is. When I had 4.56 gears in mine it was hard to turn the wheel. I have seen some slight rust build-up cause the gears to bind. Pull the cover and look at it Gus
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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05/24/17 12:21 AM
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Just put a brand new strange dana 60 in my Demon with 4.56 gears with spool...and yes it was hard to turn by hand.
Tony
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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05/24/17 03:37 AM
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a properly set up Dana 60 with any gear ratio and a spool should not turn hard under any street, straight line movement. Jack the car up and put it on jack stands and then try turning one wheel or the other to see how hard it turns forwards and backwards, if it is hard (you need to strain to turn the tire with both hands)then disconnect the driveshaft and try again. If it is easier with it disconnected look at the transmission If it is still hard you need to find out why before you go any further Good luck, let us know what you find BTW, Mopar engineers use to recommend using one quart only of gear grease in both the Dana 60 and one in NP833 for drag racing only In fact we use to run one quart of ATF only in the NP833 for drag racing, that work real well
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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I am going to drop the driveshaft tonight and see if there is any difference. As far as transmission is concerned I know for sure I am going to be spending some time adjusting the linkage. Gears were hard to find during test drive and won't stay in gear unless shifter is held in place. Again, since the car was never driven since built, I figured there would be a few bugs to work out. Just trying not to break something expensive right off the bat. When up on jack stands I must restate that I had to use both hands and quite a bit of force to get the wheels to budge even an inch.
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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05/24/17 10:33 AM
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I only run 2 quarts of fluid in Dana 60 rearends. That's all it needs...street or strip. Running a spool on the street is not asking for failure of any kind...been doing it for years and never had one problem.
It will turn a little harder w/ the spool, but may just be tight b/c of the new bearings. Unless they set it up way too tight or the housing is bent like Cab said.
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Re: Dana 60 with spool question
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On jackstands I can rotate the driveshaft a bit back n forth before it catches, Yes.
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