Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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Oh i forgot to mention Dave S local guy i bought 512 RB off a few years back that he replaced with a boneyard build 5.7 stock 6.1cam and heads with single turbo 3.23gears that ran 8.9s.he is also a member here if you want specifics on his build. If that was pointed to me I'm not interested in a 8.9's power added build. My 512 will cover that with no adder, but thanks for the offer. Now it only comes down to was that number at one of the mineshaft east coast tracks or inland. I know you want to play hard core that you wont change.. but that 8.9 is with a STOCK engine that a guy put a turbo on.. your car is light.. what was his.. you better learn to open your mind a bit or not
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
[Re: The Shadow]
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His car must weigh 2000 lbs to run 8.90's with a 512 rb If I remember right he is running 2400 or just a bit more.. still a good running car
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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8.90 ET at 2400 lbs = 672 hp. 672hp from 512 cubes.....Not impressed. Who in the heck said the car weights 2400 pounds. Lol I wish it did because then we would go even faster. Like I said you will never see me driving a two ton tessy. My street day's are over and I'm to young to need creature comforts. But this is a story for another day
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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Oh i forgot to mention Dave S local guy i bought 512 RB off a few years back that he replaced with a boneyard build 5.7 stock 6.1cam and heads with single turbo 3.23gears that ran 8.9s.he is also a member here if you want specifics on his build. If that was pointed to me I'm not interested in a 8.9's power added build. My 512 will cover that with no adder, but thanks for the offer. Now it only comes down to was that number at one of the mineshaft east coast tracks or inland. I know you want to play hard core that you wont change.. but that 8.9 is with a STOCK engine that a guy put a turbo on.. your car is light.. what was his.. you better learn to open your mind a bit or not betcha theres more $$ in that 512 than the turbo 5.7 and its around 3100lbs.im convinced gen IIIs are not the way to go LOL
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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I lurk over on the Moparts gen 3 area because believe it or not I am open minded and enjoy reading and studying before I leap. As for costs I have 2800.00 in my mega block ready to assemble, 2200.00 in my rotating assembly, and under 1200.00 in my 440-1 heads with Harlan Sharp rockers with upgraded 2.250 valves (I will probably go with a set of T&D rockers if valve to piston permit). Indy intake was in a package deal and 500.00 in the alcohol toilet if I go that way. It adds up but still what I consider budget build as I shy away from some of the "ragazine" tricks that drive up costs. But like I said my eyes and ears are open while you guys get a hints figured out. I can only hope that is a misprint on what a gen 3 guy said lifters cost in that one post over there.
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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8.90 ET at 2400 lbs = 672 hp. 672hp from 512 cubes.....Not impressed. 8.90 in anything with doors n/a... I'm impressed.
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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05/21/17 01:56 PM
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Wonder if ptsbracer get lexan, fiberglass and holesaws as cheap as engine parts
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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8.90 ET at 2400 lbs = 672 hp. 672hp from 512 cubes.....Not impressed. 8.90 in anything with doors n/a... I'm impressed. No kidding, and it takes a lot of work weather old school or new just seems a bit easier w/late model and EFI. I know I came off very strong and negative about the new stuff so my bad there, it's just a personal preference thing and there's no right or wrong until stubborn guys like myself and a few others make it personal. I love the positive and negative results I get from carbs and although messy and a pain at times, I just cant see myself on a laptop tuning. Hell, I cant even post pics here............... N/A Old school has been my goal forever so that's where I`ll stay and shoot for that elusive 5.99..............
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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IIRC he removed the glass doors from the car in favor of more "friendly" stock doors with roll up glass. ack in his Ya I could start a weight gain post. Between kicking my son out of the car and back in his, stock steel doors with stock wind up window, alternator, exhaust, R3 block, diaper, racepak and electrical upgrades, and a few other goodies I added 250-300 pounds to the car. Lol. I call it my old man car. Race it, drive it in the trailer and climb out the window, and go home. Matt went to take the hood off at the track last week and I asked him what the heck he was doing.
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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Matt went to take the hood off at the track last week and I asked him what the heck he was doing.
Lol. Thats how I am and exactly why I went g3. Hyd roller ftw
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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Remembering back to when the 2.2 was the only "factory performance" engine platform, I see alot of humor in these discussions....We're actually pretty lucky to have anything, considering how small our overall volume is.
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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Remembering back to when the 2.2 was the only "factory performance" engine platform, I see alot of humor in these discussions....We're actually pretty lucky to have anything, considering how small our overall volume is.
Amen brother!
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi
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I'll stick with the old school junk. Regardless of what anyone says, the Gen 3's are more expensive to build and install. The headers, oil pans and engine mounts they require are not cheap. The rotating assemblies in side the junkyard pickup truck 5.7's are just that, junk. For a fun, 500-600hp street car, an old school RB build can be done for a fraction of the cost without roller-this or stroker-that. Thats me as I am old school top to bottom. But thats just me as I love what I grew up with. Even on brand X as if I see a nice 69 Chevelle SS 396 and see a newer LS under the hood its not what I like to see under there as I want to see a 396 or BB Chevy under its hood. And as I say thats just me. Nothing wrong with anyone going with a modern eng in their old muscle if thats what they like. I like the NSS racing alot and like to see what eng belongs under their hoods as thats what floats my boat. But the new eng will run good and I dont knock anyone for building what they like as you have to build what you like. I honestly think many of us including me were really surprised to see the muscle cars return with all the power they have with the power adders as I think most like me felt we would never see anything like this from the factory again after the muscle cars died in the 70's. Bottom line is new or old Mopar they are all Mopars so we should like them all as I do. I just prefer old school for myself. But there is alot of modern parts now for the old school engines that help them run alot better also. Ron
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