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1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS #2306312
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Do you have one or had one and is there such a thing?

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306355
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What engine? Do you have the broadcast sheet?

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2306379
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
What engine? Do you have the broadcast sheet?


The application is a 71 Plymouth Road Runner with a 383 automatic.

He's looking for proof that they may have come with an AVS

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306388
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No AVS but ABS standard.

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306392
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here we go....


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Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306397
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No AVS, which Holley it had would depend on several things, N96 or not, etc.

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2306410
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
No AVS, which Holley it had would depend on several things, N96 or not, etc.


your next question will be
do you have something to back that up?? lol

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2306554
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
What engine? Do you have the broadcast sheet?


Per the OP in another post, broadcast sheets are only for statistical purposes and not at all related to what was actually installed on the vehicle eyes


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Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306577
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I had not seen the other thread.....Until now. eyes

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2306578
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
I had not seen the other thread.....Until now. eyes


Was wondering when we would get your input.... up


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Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: Butterscotch71] #2306628
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Originally Posted By Butterscotch71
Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
What engine? Do you have the broadcast sheet?


Per the OP in another post, broadcast sheets are only for statistical purposes and not at all related to what was actually installed on the vehicle eyes
Statistacal yes but I never said it was unrated to equipment installed on vehicle. Now your putting words in my mouth.

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2306663
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
I had not seen the other thread.....Until now. eyes


Come on Scott, that thread is hours of entertainment laugh

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2306714
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
What engine? Do you have the broadcast sheet?


There is no broadcast sheet that came with the car. On closer inspection, it looks like something was attached to the exhaust manifold on the left side. This by itself, is not proof of anything because I don't know if these manifolds are original to the car, but there is a small broken stud on what looks to be a mount for something. Could this be old evidence of a hot air stove?

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306730
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Originally Posted By L.R Helbling
Originally Posted By Butterscotch71
Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
What engine? Do you have the broadcast sheet?


Per the OP in another post, broadcast sheets are only for statistical purposes and not at all related to what was actually installed on the vehicle eyes
Statistacal yes but I never said it was unrated to equipment installed on vehicle. Now your putting words in my mouth.


from the other thread...
"Can't help you, chum if you don't believe what I'm telling you. Holley R4668 carbs were put on Roadrunners with heated air intakes like I mentioned in a previous post. Mine never came with that option so I got the Carter AVS. Typical numbers found on broadcast sheets are fine for statistical purposes but they do not describe the rules for putting which carb on which car. FSM does."


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Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306744
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What possible STATISTICAL purpose would broadcast sheets serve the factory???

As others have stated, their purpose was to instruct the line workers as to what parts to install.

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: flypaper] #2306752
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My 71 RR had the N96 option. Car use to belong to 340shorty who has passed on. He was the original owner. According to him the car came with a Holley. The car was a 383, auto on the column.


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Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306759
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Butterscotch71,

general rules that describe what carb goes into what engine/tranny combo are found in the FSM. That's what I said. I never said build sheets were unrelated to how a car is built.

Pacnorthcuda,

It would serve absolutely no purpose at all. I wasn't referring to line workers when I made that comment. Or the factory. I was referring to our friend Butterscotch71. Because of what he has been doing, collecting all that data on all those build sheets, they have great statistical importance. To him and to us. Got it now?

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2306944
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You need to find a BS sheet showing an AVS installation on said car.

Got it now?

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2307026
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
L.R.H.

You need to find a BS sheet showing an AVS installation on said car.

Got it now?


ahh
Captian Obvious tried to tell him that before
but he threw him overboard and he continued to
paddle on his own! wink

Re: 1971 Roadrunner with factory Carter AVS [Re: L.R Helbling] #2307040
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"general rules that describe what carb goes into what engine/tranny combo are found in the FSM"

The factory service manuals do not define “rules” as what engine/trans combo is used in what body line. As already posted in the wing nut thread, the FSM only provides information about processes and specifications necessary to service and maintain the various vehicle components, arranged by component groupings, or systems, and covering the FSM’s brand (Dodge or Chrysler/Plymouth FSM) full body line. The factory parts catalogs sole function is to accurately define factory replacement part numbers based on the original part applications. In this case, once the correct carline code is understood and applied, the ’71 parts catalog clearly shows the 6125S was used on a 383 variant used for C-bodies only and all B&E body 383HP applications having Holleys originally. Any third-party documentation that counters this, or fails to show any Holleys, is just wrong.


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