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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: 300rag] #2303184
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Originally Posted By 300rag
Here's a thought. For ease of tying down, I had my trailer equipped with luggage doors all around and full length E-track to install wheel straps. No crawling under the car for me. This is a 22'. Towed it through the Rockies with two different Rams.


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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303269
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....and my opinion on the OP's tool 4 towing. It will work. I towed my 24ft enclosed trailer with a 95 1500 4x4 3.5 gear ram. Had the tow package and still added another cooler to keep the trans temp in check (again... desert environment requires more attention in this area). Was it the right tool for the job? no, but it worked for a few years until we found a 2500 that suited us. We took our time, and often adjusted our route to more favorable roads (less grades). I know the 1500 you have is twice the pickup that my 95 was. Better trans, better gearing, more power, and twice the brakes.

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303288
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I've never seen those luggage doors - that's the bug's nuts.

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: indcontrols] #2303330
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Originally Posted By Dixie
Originally Posted By 300rag
Here's a thought. For ease of tying down, I had my trailer equipped with luggage doors all around and full length E-track to install wheel straps. No crawling under the car for me. This is a 22'. Towed it through the Rockies with two different Rams.


That is slick !






Originally Posted By indcontrols
I've never seen those luggage doors - that's the bug's nuts.



The owner of the trailer store had one to tow his Benz behind his motorhome. When I saw the setup I knew that was the way to go, and cheap too. I just gave them the measurements where I wanted the doors, and waited 8 weeks to get the trailer built.


Peter



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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303417
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Thanks for all the info Guys, this helps a lot!

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303533
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If you install a winch to pull the car into the trailer and to let it out under your control NEVER leave the winch line tight while towing tsk Tie the car down with it tight and then back it off a little thumbs That adds years to the winch life, don't ask me how I know about that realcrazy whistling shruggy


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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Cab_Burge] #2303563
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And if you do install a winch buy this remote set-up. you will love it and yourself for doing so.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Winch-R...ATV-Warn-Ramsey


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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303658
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I have a 20', twin 5k axle Haulmark: was a deal that found me. Was not even considering an enclosed. Even though I agree that 24' is ideal, having worked with this 20' for two+ years I would suggest to not rule out this size if a deal were to present itself.

Primarily I haul C3/C4 Corvettes (1968-96) in it, but have done B and E Bodies too. With the Vettes, space is of no concern even with a winch set up in the nose. The E body is very livable, the B Body is tight but not the end of the world.

My suggestions beyond ones previously mentioned: I'd recommend an arched roof and bowed nose unit. The arched roof is a must if it snows where you are: flat roof will not allow the snow to "flow off". It will sit there- then will just hold water and corrode the roof. The bowed nose will give a slight bit more room. The flat roof/flat front units are cheaper. Hallmark and the like (more $$) are arched. Look for torsion bar 5k axles, not the leaf spring 3.5k ones.

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1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Cab_Burge] #2303745
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
If you install a winch to pull the car into the trailer and to let it out under your control NEVER leave the winch line tight while towing tsk Tie the car down with it tight and then back it off a little thumbs That adds years to the winch life, don't ask me how I know about that realcrazy whistling shruggy


Winch guys, I'm gonna show my ignorance here. Winching on seems easy. Does the car want to roll back when winching off?

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303788
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No, what he means is that leaving the winch tight ruins the internal brake in the winch, then it will want to roll back when winching on! tsk


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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303856
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Winch guys, I'm gonna show my ignorance here. Winching on seems easy. Does the car want to roll back when winching off?


If you crank up the trailer tougne then it will usually roll off easy. I reverse the winch (let out the cable) and give the cars push. Once it wants to roll out, I then use the winch to control the rolling.


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1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: EWJ] #2303884
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Originally Posted By EWJ
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Winch guys, I'm gonna show my ignorance here. Winching on seems easy. Does the car want to roll back when winching off?


If you crank up the trailer tougne then it will usually roll off easy. I reverse the winch (let out the cable) and give the cars push. Once it wants to roll out, I then use the winch to control the rolling.


Oh that makes sense on how to get it off without a driver. Got it.

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2303893
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Originally Posted By Finoke
Originally Posted By EWJ
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Winch guys, I'm gonna show my ignorance here. Winching on seems easy. Does the car want to roll back when winching off?


If you crank up the trailer tougne then it will usually roll off easy. I reverse the winch (let out the cable) and give the cars push. Once it wants to roll out, I then use the winch to control the rolling.


Oh that makes sense on how to get it off without a driver. Got it.


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If you then get a wireless remote as suggested in a prior post ( I have to get one myself), then your can steer the car and run the winch all on your own.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2304099
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Originally Posted By Finoke
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
If you install a winch to pull the car into the trailer and to let it out under your control NEVER leave the winch line tight while towing tsk Tie the car down with it tight and then back it off a little thumbs That adds years to the winch life, don't ask me how I know about that realcrazy whistling shruggy


Winch guys, I'm gonna show my ignorance here. Winching on seems easy. Does the car want to roll back when winching off?




Only winch it off if the trailer is tilted to the rear and then you can winch the car out of the trailer - if thats the question.

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: max_maniac] #2308101
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Thanks for all the good input everybody. I thought I would check back in. The reason I posted was I had an eye on the trailer I bought.

20ft 2017 United ULT already outfitted with 2 spares and E track. The original owner bought it in Feb. Hauled once with it and his wife said it had to go.

I got it for 2 grand off what he paid. I towed it home yesterday and it pulled fine empty. I plan to buy a weight distribution hitch for hauling E bodies.

Tom

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An e-body is short and fat so the 20" trailer will be fine, just hRd to get in and out in the trailer.


The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Rhinodart] #2308121
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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
An e-body is short and fat so the 20" trailer will be fine, just hRd to get in and out in the trailer.


I got skinny legs and a convertible boogie

But I hear ya, I'm not getting any younger whistling

Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2308132
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Good deal...forgot to mention E-Track: very nice bonus. Good score!


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: EWJ] #2308163
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Congratulations. You will love have an enclosed trailer. Loving my United so far.




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Re: Enclosed trailer question [Re: Finoke] #2308198
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I haul B-bodies in my 20' with no problems. I wanted a 20' trailer due to limitations on where I needed to park it. Has worked out fine for 15 years.


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