No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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04/16/17 11:23 PM
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I've been running through all the online catalogs I can find and nobody seems to make an inexpensive 10:1 piston for a standard bore 440.
My block cleaned up nicely at 4.322" and I don't want to punch it without good reason.
I can find them up to 9.5:1 then it jumps to the 10.8:1 KB363 at $640 a set.
I'm running stock rods and Eddy 88cc heads. The cam shows zero overlap on the card and I'm trying to build it into a high torque cruiser for the Imperial.
I get the feeling that even with the aluminum heads the 10.8:1 is going to be too high for most pump gas.
Any suggestions? It's been many years since I've shopped for pistons.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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04/17/17 12:01 PM
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Yeah, these are really early Eddy heads.
I've been doing the math, not going by catalogs.
The ICON 9953 gives me 9.37:1. Speed Pro 2266 gives me 8.49:1 (what I ran in the TT440). Speed Pro 2355 gives me 9.16:1.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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04/17/17 04:13 PM
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Sell those heads and then get the ones that will get you where you need to be without custom pistons???
If a manufacture has a piston you want, but it's .030, can you try asking if they will make the same piston in the stock diameter? Seems like it wouldn't be that much effort.
What brands have you looked at? Arias, Wiseco, JE, Ross, Mahle???
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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04/17/17 04:58 PM
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What brands have you looked at? Arias, Wiseco, JE, Ross, Mahle???
I believe he said INEXPENSIVE. Feets you have a lathe. Too tall a CH can be addressed.
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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KB237 looks like it might be the ticket and STD is supposed to be available.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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04/17/17 05:22 PM
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Yeah, these are really early Eddy heads.
I've been doing the math, not going by catalogs.
The ICON 9953 gives me 9.37:1. Speed Pro 2266 gives me 8.49:1 (what I ran in the TT440). Speed Pro 2355 gives me 9.16:1. Run the ICON 9953 and be happy when you get that batch of crappy fuel. Deck the heads to get more compression, if you want. For a street car, this is chasing Elvis. You're talking about circa 2.5% power difference in a point of compression. If it's that important, call Diamond and get the bore and CH you need from a 52001 or 52002 shelf piston. Going to be $800+/set. It's your money, your decision. S/F....Ken M
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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I was looking at the 2295 and it showed 10.8:1 with this setup. Milling the tops seems viable.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: No inexpensive 10:1 std bore 440 pistons?
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I picked up a small piece of polycarbonate and a large medicine syringe from the pet store last night.
As soon as I get the chance (maybe tonight) I'll measure the heads and find the actual combustion chamber volume.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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