Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: BradH]
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04/12/17 10:39 PM
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[quote=rickseeman]It's a good time to be an independently wealthy Mopar man. Updated to reflect reality for the majority of the people on here. Love the car -- well, except for the fender flairs -- but it's a total effing pipe dream for most folks.[/quote) The 1970 Hemi Cuda's were probably pretty expensive when they came out also. Especially the insurance.
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: D-50]
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04/12/17 11:19 PM
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[quote=rickseeman]It's a good time to be an independently wealthy Mopar man. Updated to reflect reality for the majority of the people on here. Love the car -- well, except for the fender flairs -- but it's a total effing pipe dream for most folks.[/quote) The 1970 Hemi Cuda's were probably pretty expensive when they came out also. Especially the insurance. Kinda the thought that came to mind for me too. Not that many people had the scratch for Hemi, Boss, or L-88 cars either.
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: slantzilla]
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04/13/17 09:51 AM
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It's a good time to be an independently wealthy Mopar man. Updated to reflect reality for the majority of the people on here. Love the car -- well, except for the fender flairs -- but it's a total effing pipe dream for most folks. The 1970 Hemi Cuda's were probably pretty expensive when they came out also. Especially the insurance. Kinda the thought that came to mind for me too. Not that many people had the scratch for Hemi, Boss, or L-88 cars either. Understood, but a '69 Hemi Road Runner wasn't twice the price of a '69 440 6 BBL Road Runner, whereas the new SRT Demon is going to be about twice what a Scat Pack Challenger costs. A Hellcat is probably closer in your analogy, though I'm not sure that's even an accurate comparison.
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/13/17 01:37 PM
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My uncle ( by marriage) bought a '68 Road runner brand new. I asked why he didn't get the hemi. He said it was $800 on a $3,000 car....
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/13/17 01:53 PM
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This car is freaking awesome, but just to put things into perspective, this isn't a "muscle car". It is really a high end exotic for the price that people are speculating it will sell for.
Let's take a look at something. In 1969 a COPO or YENKO camaro, the Hellcat Demon of its day, sold for around $4000 at a time when average annual household incomes were around $6000
Today, the hellcat demon will likely sell for almost 100k at a time when average annual household incomes are around $55k. LOL
Granted, this is the kind of inflation we have seen throughout the whole automotive industry, but still.
I think this car is great, and I would love to own one if I had the money, but I think the fact that it doesn't seem to even be trying to be a great all around car or a top competitor in the handling department kind of takes away from the accomplishment a little bit. If you are just looking to go fast in a straight line, you could build a 9 second car for a hell of a lot cheaper with mostly any late model platform these days. Building something like a Z06 vette that runs 10's, runs down italian super cars on road race tracks, gets 22mpg on the highway and can be comfortably daily driven is far more difficult. While the hellcat is clearly the king of its domain, I feel like the accomplishment for the price tag doesn't impress me as much with it being a one trick pony.
I'd much rather put that engine/drivetrain in my 1970 challenger if I was only looking for 1/4 mile performance.
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: 1mean340]
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04/13/17 03:41 PM
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this car leaves me speechless. i applaud mopar's bravado and gumption. amazing. for all the chumps who actually complain about this thing, you gotta be kidding me. and if given the choice, i would go for a charger hellcat. seriously? a four door sedan that'll do over TWO HUNDRED MILES PER HOUR. in total comfort. these are the best of times. let us join now in celebration...
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: MattW]
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04/13/17 03:44 PM
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Get them will you can cuz I do believe the writing is in the wall. Matt
i totally agree with this. there is no way this can go much further before "reset"...
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: BradH]
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04/13/17 05:56 PM
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Good news: If I raid my kids college fund and break open a piggybank or two, I can buy one outright.
Bad news: My wife & kids would make me seriously regret having done it before the engine cooled off after the first drive home from the dealership. Just checked... NOPE, nothing's changed w/ the above assessment. Your in a Demon why go home lol
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: SRT6776]
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04/13/17 07:10 PM
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I'll never own one.. I just wont pay the price tag.. I couldnt afford it anyhow.. my buddies son just bought a mustang thats got a blower on it... a factory stock car.. he took it into a well known hot rod shop locally and he guarantees it to put 690 to 708hp to the rear tires.. and thats not the maxed out version of it.. this will still have a factory warranty
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/13/17 07:14 PM
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Tim was asked at the show if will be doing a demon charger....he flat said "NO" Not sure why put flares on the charger to make a wide body (it's not just a bolt on kit) they can't sell the low production built charger they have The charger would not have anywhere near the sales it has (not just hellcat) if it was not for police taxi/fleet vehicles
1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/14/17 07:57 AM
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The game has changed. Today's car buyers insist on power windows, seats, a killer stereo etc. Even the el-cheapo "economy" cars come with a/c and cruise standard. Look at the selling points for the collector muscle cars. 2 data plates means twice the money because of the options that are now standard equipment. And regulations play a big part. Think of how fast this thing would be if they could drop all the airbags out and still get it insured. That said, it is an amazing piece of engineering but I wouldn't want to drive one at 140+ on the track without a roll cage!
It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.
Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
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Re: Challanger Demon
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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04/14/17 09:59 AM
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Wonder if the Demon PCM/other goodies (transbrake, torque reserve etc) will work/be put on the Hellcats? This is what I'm thinking also. I'll go a step further. Let's hope the release the 6.2 hellcat reg with trans and a unlocked PCM. Hell I'll take a regular 6.4 with the 8sp trand and ECM for under 10G. That would send shock waves in the Hot rod business. Matt
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