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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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04/19/06 12:11 AM
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Im very excited about this topic. I've been doing my research and reading as many post as i can. I'm planning to turn my dark green Integra into a nice gloss White.
My questions is..for the wetsanding process, are you "hand" sanding everything? or using a sander?. or does it mater?
Hand sand it.. it doesn't take a lot of work, a sander would be way overkill and you could do more damage than good. Do use some kind of block. I have used those 3m sanding "sponges", they come in 60, 100, 150 grit etc. I like the 150 grit as the 60 grit has too coarse a surface for a nice smooth surface. They might have higher than 150 in which case I'd get one of those, but I've used 150.
They are soft but firm enough, just wrap them
in your wetsanding paper and dunk the whole thing into your water.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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where do you guys get the foam rollers? i cant seem to find them anywhere...
I have seen them at every paint store I've been to, along with the other rollers.. they have always been white. Sherwin williams has them, but like their other stuff, they were way overpriced so you can get them at home depot, lowes, other paint stores etc.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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where do you guys get the foam rollers? i cant seem to find them anywhere...
I have seen them at every paint store I've been to, along with the other rollers.. they have always been white. Sherwin williams has them, but like their other stuff, they were way overpriced so you can get them at home depot, lowes, other paint stores etc.
wow how do you wetsand, everytime i wetsand, by the end my back my elbow and my feet ache soo bad, i have to continuously sand one area for a few minutes to get it smooth, anways, my third coat dried and i wetsanded it and got the 4th coat on. I wetsanded and got about 85% of the peels out and well rest...i got lazy hahah, besides they were smooth not bummpy but just spotted dunno why. I have pics of the tHird coat and 4th Coat done not the wetsand in betwee though, i will post pics tommorow.
PS: I need help, my dads friend, who garage i'm using, is getting angry saying the chemical paint smell is going through his whole house and to leave the garage door open, both of them when painting and so i did on this 4th Coat and man o man, soo many small pollen / dirt hair type stuff is gettin on my paint, they were gettin on earlier too but not tooo many.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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04/19/06 09:21 AM
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wow how do you wetsand, everytime i wetsand, by the end my back my elbow and my feet ache soo bad, i have to continuously sand one area for a few minutes to get it smooth, anways, my third coat dried and i wetsanded it and got the 4th coat on. I wetsanded and got about 85% of the peels out and well rest...i got lazy hahah, besides they were smooth not bummpy but just spotted dunno why. I have pics of the tHird coat and 4th Coat done not the wetsand in betwee though, i will post pics tommorow.
I never had much of any orange peel.. it always looked like it would be orange peely for a good 30 minutes after I painted it, but when I came back a few hours later, it was smooth on its own.
Sorry to hear about your pollen problem.. they will wetsand out I hope.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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04/19/06 10:40 AM
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Hello, this is my first post!! This topic rocks!Just a quick question. Has anyone tried to apply decals over the paint?? Say, a strobe stripe kit for instance. Will it work?? 
yes, no issues, just wait about a month before you apply them, de wax with mineral spirits and a rag before.  
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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I"m definetly going to try this method on my "a-team" van project. Problem is I'm doing the work in the driveway so I need to know how long I need for drying time beofre rain. I'm excited to give it a shot. Hopefully I'll be able to get a chance to start on the hood or more this weekend.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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meh, seems as though im having a tough time finding things... i dont have a home depot here... so... where did you guys find the 100% mineral spirits? I have checked lowes, walmart, kmart, sears (we have a small sears here), and the family center... have yet to find it... also, will these rollers work? 
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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alright, my search will contine tomorrow... if i dont find it ill have to order it online, which will be ~$16 shipped for a gallon. How much do i actually need? Is a gallon enough?
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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04/19/06 11:27 PM
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I think in earlier posts they said a gallon would thin enough paint for a whole car.
Look for paint thinner. It should say 100% mineral spirits on the can somewhere.
Good luck!
1969 Road Runner, Q5 Seafoam Turquoise Metallic, M6S(pewter, GTX type) interior. Currently has a 440 with 727 transmission. Numbers matching 383 is now being stored. Looking for a 400 or another 383, located near Columbus, to build in its place.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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also, will these rollers work?
I would not use those rollers, I have seen the yellow ones like that and the foam is not as smooth as the ultra smooth foam rollers you should be using.
Do you have a store that sells just paint in your area? They would most likely have the mineral spirits (sometimes called "Paint Thinner (100% Mineral Spirits)", and the dense foam rollers.
Here is a pic of the rollers I've used, next to mineral spirits disguised as "Paint Thinner". These rollers are from Home Depot but im pretty sure lowes has the same ones. Local sherwin williams has a similar kind (they have ALL been white) but were more $.
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First of all, thanks Charger for this awesome method. I've been reading through the posts for a while now, and everything is starting to become a little confusing. Someone should definately write up a complete walkthrough that is ideal in creating the best finish possible. You could include items used and procedures. That would be fantastic. Please? 
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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04/20/06 12:24 AM
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First of all, thanks Charger for this awesome method.
I've been reading through the posts for a while now, and everything is starting to become a little confusing. Someone should definately write up a complete walkthrough that is ideal in creating the best finish possible. You could include items used and procedures. That would be fantastic. Please?
Here's a quick summary- thin rustoleum with mineral spirits to a watery consistency, apply a very thin coat using a 4" high density foam roller. wait till it dries completely, then repeat. wait till it dries, then wetsand with 600 grit.
repeat that 2 more times, switching to 800 then 1000 grit. then apply one coat, and wetsand with 2000.
I dont think there's complete agreement on how to produce the best possible finish. In fact the sanding procedure i just wrote I dont think has been tried yet in that precise way. But I think I'll try it that way the next time I try this.
It's still a work in progress and as more people try it and post their results, we'll get a better idea of the best steps to take.
At this point, there is insufficient evidence to write up any final procedure on the best way..
By the way, who changed the title to "..."? It has been "Re: paint job on a budget!?" since the beginning... so im putting it back..
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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How are you keeping from buinring through to the nexr layer and get spots?
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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How are you keeping from buinring through to the nexr layer and get spots?
Thats why i'm doing 3 coats and wetsand with 800grit then 3 coats more and wetsand with 1500 and then 1 Coat and wetsand with 2000 and polish, cuz at this point, i'm totally out of time i had 1 MONTH to get thi done cuz i had Temporary Tags from my mVA and i needed to get inspection but never had time cuz car was always lookin dirty and still wet, but its at a point where i WILL DRIVe it lOL (REFER to previous posts of the car)
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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Ok so I finally got time off work and life and I'm going to get something fairly large off a junk car to test on (since I would like to paint my car this way but want to test first). Now just a rundown, this is what I have on my list to get from home depot:
Rustoleum Flat White (in the can)
Ultra fine 3m sand paper (wet or dry use)
4" Small professional foam rollers (ultra smooth white)
Mineral spirits (non odorless)
small tray for paint
handle for foam roller
small foam paint brush
turtle wax compound
Pretty much everything I believe? Let me know if I'm missing some things or not.
And I've been searching but can't find it, what was the paint to mineral spirits ratio? I know I saw it listed but theres so many pages and posts its hard to find.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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Ok so I finally got time off work and life and I'm going to get something fairly large off a junk car to test on (since I would like to paint my car this way but want to test first). Now just a rundown, this is what I have on my list to get from home depot:
Rustoleum Flat White (in the can)
Ultra fine 3m sand paper (wet or dry use)
4" Small professional foam rollers (ultra smooth white)
Mineral spirits (non odorless)
small tray for paint
handle for foam roller
small foam paint brush
turtle wax compound
Pretty much everything I believe? Let me know if I'm missing some things or not.
And I've been searching but can't find it, what was the paint to mineral spirits ratio? I know I saw it listed but theres so many pages and posts its hard to find.
a 100$ Check written in Chargers name and ready to mail if the process work.
PS: Same thing for me 
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