Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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There are certain cars and trucks that are difficult to find sheet metal for. Let's hear what you would like to see reproduced. Maybe one of the companies that stamps panels will step up and start making them!
I'll start:
1970 Dodge Coronet quarter panels 1967-69 Barracuda front fenders. 1972-93 Dodge truck one piece floors 1972-80 Dodge truck roof skins- both inner and outer 1970 Dodge Charger front fenders
Here is my logic for my choices. The 70 Super Bees all need quarters just like any 47 year old Mopar. AMD makes trunk floors, trunk extensions, outer wheel houses, rockers, and every other inner panel imaginable to fit them. Every part except the quarter. That leaves a lot of 70 Super Bee's owners waiting, and not buying all the other panels too, because that one key part isn't available. The thing is, 90% of the tooling for the 68,69 Coronet quarters is the same as the 70, so it's not like starting from scratch tooling up.
The 67-69 Barracuda fenders are nearly impossible to find in good shape. Other than the marker light on a 69, and some minor differences in headlight bucket etc, all 3 years are virtually the same panel. A much needed part, and these cars are really getting desirable.
The Dodge truck floor could be made in the small hump version and fit 72-83 2wd trucks and the owner could cut out the hole for the hump on a 4 speed or 4wd model like Chrysler did at the factory. It would allow owners of Lil Red Express trucks, Warlocks, Macho 4x4's and virtually every other 72-93 Dodge truck fix their cab properly.
The roof skin is needed because many of these trucks have had crunched roofs from abuse, sunroofs cut in, and they sometimes rust out at the front above the windshield. The inner rusts above the visors, and also have the sunroof holes sometimes. Both panels are simple stampings.
And 70 Charger fenders. I don't have to explain. Plus they would allow people who want to restore or clone a Daytona.
Alright, what do you want to see, and why
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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73-74 satellite roadrunner quarter panels... last I checked, amd only makes the rear lower section.
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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A lot of the mfg's like AMD would love to make these items available, AMD's CEO Mark H. is a Mopar owner and enthusiast, so he knows the need, unfortunately he needs to see 2 things, either a huge Email/write in campaign where the committed number of potential buyers is so high that it's worth the investment, or a "customer/vendor" willing to bank roll the investment in the tooling, a die set up for a set of fenders can be as low as $250K up to $400K+ depending on the complexity, then you need someone to pony up a set of NOS/excellent used fender/qtrs/etc to model off of, a lot of time and $$$$ goes into even the smallest part(s) to bring them to market
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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69 coronet front fenders are sorely needed. I agree. I had no idea how difficult it was to find a nice one until I was screwing my '69 together. I found one on the West coast and shipped it all the way to Virginia. Stan
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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I couldn't find any takers for a set of decent 69 Coronet fenders that I had. Ended up going scrap.
Now I would do anything for a new passenger 70 Charger fender to go with my NOS drivers I've been hanging on to.
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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These threads always start with a request for 70 Coronet quarters.
We even had a thread dedicated to 70 Coronet quarters.
In 4 years we ended up with 20 people, if that, that committed to buying a set. agreed, IMHO if one really needs 70 Coronet qtrs, they can be found NOS or clean cut-offs, or rework a set of AMD 68/69 Coronet qtrs
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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These threads always start with a request for 70 Coronet quarters.
We even had a thread dedicated to 70 Coronet quarters.
In 4 years we ended up with 20 people, if that, that committed to buying a set. agreed, IMHO if one really needs 70 Coronet qtrs, they can be found NOS or clean cut-offs, or rework a set of AMD 68/69 Coronet qtrs Yeah I have a pair of clean CA cutoffs to support my two Bees
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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73-74 satellite roadrunner quarter panels... last I checked, amd only makes the rear lower section. this
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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65 Fury Quarter Panels 67 Belvedere, gtx quarter Panels 67 Coronet Quarter Panels
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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[quote=Morty426]These threads always start with a request for 70 Coronet quarters.
And I am living proof. My 70 Bee sits and waits while I do other cars simply because why would I buy $5000 worth of floors and inner panels, if the most important panel is not available. That's why you see so many 70 Super Bee project cars. They are desirable cars and people want to restore them, but everyone knows that quarters are the missing link, so they sit. From the current thread in Moparts general, get a trailer and head down to Texas, everything's for sale, pony up and pick up a whole car for nice rust free Texas qtrs, who knows? might find a nice candidate for a donor body instead of cutting it up for qtrs? your project could be further ahead/completed?...there's at least 4 to choose from
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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First off, Moparts is not the be all- end all.
No it's a microcosm of the Mopar Community You think there are only 20 people that want to restore their 70 Super Bees? No I think there are only 20 people that came forward with saying they were willing to by new quarters for their 70 Superbee or Coronet R/T If 70 Coronet quarters are not desirable and nice used ones are as common as dirt, then why does AMD sell 70 Plymouth Belvedere quarters? They must not be desirable either by that logic. NUMBERS! Look at the production numbers! WK21 - 58 WL21 - 2798 WM21 - 3966 WH21 - 1236 WM23 - 8347 WS23 - 2319 Total - 18,798 RL21 - 4717 RM21 - 15714 RM23 - 23944 S-Birds - 1935 RP23 - 8749 RS23 - 7748 Total - 62,807 That's almost 4X the number of Coronets! That's a bigger demand. I've seen NOS 70 Coronet quarters for sale at Carlisle. There is a reason NOS 70 Coronet stuff is easier to find than 70 RR / GTX parts. If AMD made 70 Coronet quarters, they would sell. Plain as that. You can't buy something if it isn't made. And I am living proof. My 70 Bee sits and waits while I do other cars simply because why would I buy $5000 worth of floors and inner panels, if the most important panel is not available. That's why you see so many 70 Super Bee project cars. They are desirable cars and people want to restore them, but everyone knows that quarters are the missing link, so they sit. Making 70 Coronet quarter panels means selling $$$$ worth of other panels like floors and inners etc. No quarters= no sale of other panels. Build them, and they will sell Sure they would sell but not enough to make money! Lets say the tooling costs $250,000 (that's low) Lets say I make $1000 on a pair or quarters (that's high) That means I have to sell 250 sets before I make a dime. Are there over 250 Superbees and Coronets out there that need quarters? Probably. Are there that many people out there ready to fork out the cash? NO - otherwise they would do it. I'm not the bad guy here as I know two V code 70 Bees. I'm just a realist.
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Re: Sheet metal you would like to see reproduced?
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