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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655854 04/12/10 01:55 PM 04/12/10 01:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY OP I Live Here
ZIPPY OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	After a bunch of internal discussion and some debating, we are going with a crank driven mechanical fuel pump from Aeromotive along with their regulator/filter. We're not sure if we really need this much fuel pump, but better too much than not enough. Our in-house fabricating genius is going to make some new fuel rails from the extrusions you see poking out of the box. Not because he wants to, but because nothing is going to fit anymore. We have the MP billet fuel rails on it currently which are fine for a regular 392... but they won't work with the 120lb injectors (!) and -12 line we're going to use so they gotta go. The injectors look like a miniature fire hose nozzle.... 5921647-dctc16.jpg (177 downloads)

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: AndyF] #655855 04/12/10 02:01 PM 04/12/10 02:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY OP I Live Here
ZIPPY OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	Quote: Looks like an aftermarket casting. Is that an ATI powerglide with a G3 front bell? Yep that's what it is. SFI-everything, and everything from ATI. ATI's flexplate is a real nice looking piece also, but I didn't get any pics of it (maybe next time). We're probably going to have to take a shot in the dark with the coverter. There is no dyno information at this time, only an internal thought (hope?) of what it might make power wise. It'll probably be run the old fashioned way and then dynoed much, much later (if at all). That is, if we don't bring the engine back home in a bucket.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655856 04/12/10 02:04 PM 04/12/10 02:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	Great stuff!

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655857 04/12/10 04:26 PM 04/12/10 04:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	this is very cool stuff

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: 1Fast340] #655858 04/12/10 05:06 PM 04/12/10 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Unless I missed it , are you staying with 9" tires or going bigger, if there is room?

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655859 04/12/10 09:39 PM 04/12/10 09:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,090 north cakalaky I instigator super stock
instigator super stock I Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,090 north cakalaky	Quote: After a bunch of internal discussion and some debating, we are going with a crank driven mechanical fuel pump from Aeromotive along with their regulator/filter. We're not sure if we really need this much fuel pump, but better too much than not enough. Our in-house fabricating genius is going to make some new fuel rails from the extrusions you see poking out of the box. Not because he wants to, but because nothing is going to fit anymore. We have the MP billet fuel rails on it currently which are fine for a regular 392... but they won't work with the 120lb injectors (!) and -12 line we're going to use so they gotta go. The injectors look like a miniature fire hose nozzle.... Going to keep the cell in the trunk?...only 120lb injectors....don't plan on making as much power as I thought! ... really going to run #12 to the rails....way, way overkill. 65 Barracuda All aluminum Indy HEMI with some boost! COMING TO A TRACK NEAR YOU!

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655860 04/12/10 10:16 PM 04/12/10 10:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Here. R Ranger50 member
Ranger50 member R Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Here.	Quote: After a bunch of internal discussion and some debating, we are going with a crank driven mechanical fuel pump from Aeromotive along with their regulator/filter. We're not sure if we really need this much fuel pump, but better too much than not enough. Our in-house fabricating genius is going to make some new fuel rails from the extrusions you see poking out of the box. Not because he wants to, but because nothing is going to fit anymore. We have the MP billet fuel rails on it currently which are fine for a regular 392... but they won't work with the 120lb injectors (!) and -12 line we're going to use so they gotta go. The injectors look like a miniature fire hose nozzle.... That setup just doesn't seem to make sense to me. I have personally ran -10 line with a Weldon 2025 to 1/2" rails and 83# injectors up at 600rwhp and have seen even more power, ~1000rwhp, from the same setups. With 70# of FP, you aren't going to lack any flow problems until you run out of volume. One other question, why not cheap-o 160# injectors?? Brian

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: Ranger50] #655861 04/13/10 07:50 PM 04/13/10 07:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 13 Center Line, MI M Mopar#1 member
Mopar#1 member M Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 13 Center Line, MI	Zippy meant -12 to the pump, -10 to the Y, -8 to the rails.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: Mopar#1] #655862 04/13/10 08:23 PM 04/13/10 08:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY OP I Live Here
ZIPPY OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	Yep, sorry about that...my statement didn't make any sense to me either after I re-read it a few times! As Mopar #1 stated it's -12 to the pump, and then after that it steps down to smaller lines. The smaller line will fit the rail without a problem but the bigger injectors sure won't, and I messed up that particular detail. Trying to talk on the phone and type at the same time doesn't work too well.... Myron I think we will be looking at different rear tires, radial stocker slicks really weren't designed to work with a car like this.... There is a little bit of room left on the inside but not much...it might or might not be practical to use that space up but maybe not, depending on wheel selection etc. Haven't researched it yet but should probably start. I'm going to be doing more wrench work on it over the coming weeks (which really means I'll be slacking off on pics). There probably won't be another update for awhile but if anyone has any comments or questions, feel free to chime in.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655863 04/14/10 08:08 AM 04/14/10 08:08 AM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,290 New Kent, Va. bobbyb pro stock
bobbyb pro stock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,290 New Kent, Va.	Looking good Zippy! 2004 Dodge Rumble Bee 5.7 Hemi 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #2228603 01/06/17 02:24 PM 01/06/17 02:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY OP I Live Here
ZIPPY OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	Someone brought this up today and I had to go look and see if the thread was still there. Glad it still exists. This is, of course, all ancient history now (and I'm also two jobs past this, still an automotive guy but not there anymore....and no longer have any idea what the heck anyone there is doing...or not doing...whole other topic) but man, I am really glad I was there and did everything that I could, when I had the opportunity. Back to your regularly scheduled discussion. Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #2228620 01/06/17 02:49 PM 01/06/17 02:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Originally Posted By ZIPPY Someone brought this up today and I had to go look and see if the thread was still there. Glad it still exists.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #2228721 01/06/17 05:13 PM 01/06/17 05:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,497 So. Burlington, Vt. F fast68plymouth I Live Here
fast68plymouth I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,497 So. Burlington, Vt.	Was/is there some other thread with the results? This one just seemed to fizzle out before any details were revealed. 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: fast68plymouth] #2228802 01/06/17 07:10 PM 01/06/17 07:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY OP I Live Here
ZIPPY OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	It sure did fizzle out...there was a loss of interest all the way around. I may have mentioned the results somewhere else, can't recall. ET was 9.24 in testing, I can't recall mph but it was a bigger number I definitely couldn't relate to comparing to my slow-ass street/strip personal experience. I'm sure my partner and/or engineering lead could remember MPH if asked. I've attempted a bunch of times to document projects and results here over the decades(!), and it usually doesn't work out...this is usually what happens.... Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #2229027 01/07/17 12:17 AM 01/07/17 12:17 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,189 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,189 aZLiViN	twas an exciting time....

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