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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car #655835
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To tell you the truth Fred, I don't have the specs
on too much of anything because Brian was keeping track of that sort of thing, spreadsheets and all.

I hope to get my hands on that sort of info later, but for now am happy to contribute mostly labor and general ideas towards the project.

On the turbo, my usual answer is along the lines of:

"Big."
"Trash can lid sized"
"about 90 lbs worth"

etc

I realize that ain't particularly informative, but I hope to have more tech info later.

ATI graciously stepped up to the plate, and as a result we will be running their "There aren't any GM parts in this trans" 2 speed/converter/flexplate. We were fortunate enough to already have their Super Damper on the first 392, so we will just keep using it.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655836
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Zippy,That is so cool Will this be tested in private???And if it is,,,,,will some un-named person be providing some video that we NEVER admitt to viewing??


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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: hemi-itis] #655837
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No matter how many of those new Challengers I see...they dont even come close to the original... BIG bulky car. You did a great job on it though.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: hemi-itis] #655838
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Al, we are video capable.... more than one team member has the goods needed to get that done. We haven't discussed it, but you never know

The baseline was at a smaller, sandy, dirt pits and a cornfield type of dragstrip locally (local guys will know where I'm talking about) and nobody batted an eye about the 10.30 car with BIG DADDY DON GARLITS in the window.

Like two people came and looked close at it, and that was it....so I think we'll be OK doing some future testing there for awhile....until we turn up the boost, after that we might be hosed and may have to travel further.

We can't really afford track rentals, and the track costs are coming out of our own pockets so we have to be careful. Splitting the costs up helps a bunch.

Yep it's a big car. I like big cars and am right at home in a B or C body, so I guess I like the new Challenger because it's basically the same size as a B body, especially the width.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655839
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bring it down to 75-80 when you turn the boost up. It will hook there!

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655840
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Al, we are video capable.... more than one team member has the goods needed to get that done. We haven't discussed it, but you never know

The baseline was at a smaller, sandy, dirt pits and a cornfield type of dragstrip locally (local guys will know where I'm talking about) and nobody batted an eye about the 10.30 car with BIG DADDY DON GARLITS in the window.

Like two people came and looked close at it, and that was it....so I think we'll be OK doing some future testing there for awhile....until we turn up the boost, after that we might be hosed and may have to travel further.

We can't really afford track rentals, and the track costs are coming out of our own pockets so we have to be careful. Splitting the costs up helps a bunch.

Yep it's a big car. I like big cars and am right at home in a B or C body, so I guess I like the new Challenger because it's basically the same size as a B body, especially the width.




Rich, so you had that out to the big L ... I assume
that was last year... if you can give me a call
when you head out again... I promise I wont look
LOL... if you want I can PM you my cell number,
let me know

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #655841
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N/P Mike. The big L! Yep, it was last November. As long as nobody actually sees anything, that would be fine

We were all sworn to secrecy long before then, and had to wait until the the cat was let out of the bag at MATS.

We were thinking if it would hook there with the sand and all, then it would probably hook anywhere....and it's a bit more private than the other places we could go....but that was with the baseline combo so who knows.

Testing is months away, we got tons of work to do in the meantime, but I'll try to remember.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655842
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N/P Mike. The big L! Yep, it was last November. As long as nobody actually sees anything, that would be fine

We were all sworn to secrecy long before then, and had to wait until the the cat was let out of the bag at MATS.

We were thinking if it would hook there with the sand and all, then it would probably hook anywhere....and it's a bit more private than the other places we could go....but that was with the baseline combo so who knows.

Testing is months away, we got tons of work to do in the meantime, but I'll try to remember.




Shoot me a PM a week or so before you head out to
test... I know NOTHING ... I realize it will
be a WHILE.... good luck with the build

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655843
04/01/10 11:05 PM
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Sweet!, That's the same block being shown at the NHRA events? I checked one out at Gator-Nat's. they were saying that it should hold 1000 hp. You'll soon find out! ( I just had to add my self to the conversation for historical purposes)





Only 1000HP?

Uh oh, nobody told us that

Oh well, it's too late to change it now...

Sorry about the top secret heads Mark, just trying to keep myself out of trouble. The nicest way I can put it is, the heads don't actually exist yet, but these ones do


I guess they were just pulling #'s out of their [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] because you have not tested it yet!

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655844
04/02/10 08:11 AM
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Hey Zip, I thought those photo's looked familar.

I was the Yellow Challenger you guys pitted next to but I didn't see a thing , As a Chrysler retiree I am also sworn to secrecy

Car looks good,and cool gig for you.

Gary

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: Mr340] #655845
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Good deal

I'm pretty sure this motor has been run hard on a dyno NA, and has been torn down and put back together over and over.....so maybe that's where they got the "it'll hold 1000" idea from. Not sure, as I wasn't part of that process or that discussion.

It was just "we're going to put this in, here do it"....so we did it

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655846
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Rich, Keep the pics and progress info coming. I picked up Jimmy larussa's Challenger for a twin turbo project, So the info will be of intrest.

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: BIGBLOCK_KAT] #655847
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Ha,Zip! Looks like a cool project! Best of Luck with it! The "BIG L"!!! Leave it to Raff! BTW...would this engine builder have a 248 area code??? Just curious! Randy B.

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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: BIGBLOCK_KAT] #655848
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I picked up Jimmy larussa's Challenger for a twin turbo project, So the info will be of intrest.




It's a relief to know that car isn't in limbo anymore, thanks for chiming in. Good to know, and congrats!

When all the info about the combo is rounded up in one place and confirmed correct (unlike the mess I posted), no problem sharing all the info to anyone interested.

Randy: They're out of Auburn Hills if that gives a clue...

Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655849
04/05/10 01:27 PM
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Glad to see some folks "Grab the horns" and make some new Mopar history Rich!!


R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #655850
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Thanks Dean!

Been doing a little more work on it lately.
Here is the ATI trans in all it's glory. We have to make a new trans X member to get it mounted, looks like the swap will be fairly straitforward.

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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655851
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We're also getting started on the fuel system, and had the intake pulled off for better access to everything.


You can get an idea why we put the intake on backwards in this pic. It's plumbed right into the cab from the intercooler.

Could the stock intake prove too restrictive at some point later? Maybe, but the stocker is so convienient to use why not give it a chance.

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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655852
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One of those shots taken for no particular reason

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Re: The Direct Connection Test Car [Re: ZIPPY] #655853
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Looks like an aftermarket casting. Is that an ATI powerglide with a G3 front bell?

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