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My New Best - Brazil - << UPDATED >> #2216854
12/19/16 10:02 AM
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Hi guys,

Last saturday finally I did test last updates on my Mopar and I need to say, I'm very happy with results.

Car Specs:
3300 lbs with me (Street Car)
Hoosier 28x10.5 Stiff Sidewall
Leaf Springs with home made Assassin Traction Bars
904 Trans, Footbrake, 4200 stall
Small Block 360 (318 Block With 3.58 crank and 4.000 Pistons)
Scat I Beam rods, Icon forged pistons dome (12.0:1)
Edelbrock Performer RPM Ported by Myself (Flowed 300@.600")
Edelbrock Super Victor Ported
Mighty Demon 750 Annular
Voodoo Solid Flat Tapped Cam
Pump Gas

The day was so hot 93ºF and even so, car ran constantly on 7.0@100.68 with 60ft between 1.58 to 1.60

In the last run of the day I finally got my target when the weather was not so hot:

1.59 / 4.52 / 6.99@101.92







Some videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdRsy0_4co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUD7NxzeGRU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssvgd2dROFE&feature=youtu.be

Any suggetions to improve I really appreciate.


'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car
Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A
3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars
Best 1/8 mile ET
1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2216878
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that is such a cool ride.... thanks for sharing and good runs in the heat!

Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2216881
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Very nice looking car and runs good too, congrats on the new best!


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
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'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217003
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Nice looking ride.. congrats
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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217055
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upWay to go. Really cool car!

Keep working on that 60' time and it will only get quicker. I right about the same mph as you, but my 60' times are better. I have been 6.70 @ 101.29 with 1.46 60'.

Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217059
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Nice car! Congrats on the new best. If you can get the 60' down with the mph it's running you should see .70s with no problems.

Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: J_BODY] #2217080
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
that is such a cool ride.... thanks for sharing and good runs in the heat!


Thanks Jay! It was a very cool ride. Around 70 miles from my house to dragstrip.

Where I live in Brazil, the weather is very similar to Florida. Wet and Hot.

Last edited by 360tripleblack77; 12/19/16 04:58 PM.

'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car
Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A
3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars
Best 1/8 mile ET
1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217088
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Any idea what the humidity and barometric pressures where on that day? Looking at the color of the grass I would bet money it is very humid their work Which means a lot of humidity means thin air shruggy
I would focus on getting rid of the bouncing when leaving the starting line, look at the rear leaf spring angle first at rest and then jack the car up so the rear tires are off the ground and the suspension is not loaded, don't jack it up by the rear end housing and leave it on the jack in other words tsk
If the rear spring shackles are pointed straight down or pointed slightly forward from the upper eye then see about relocating the eye forward one or two inches in it or making the upper bracket longer with the bolt holes further forward so the shackles will be pointed back toward the leaf spring eye at rest and not pointed straight down or forward under acceleration scope
Fixing the shackle angle will make your sixty foot times better, that should eliminate the bouncing also, if that is what is causing it shruggy
Please let us know what you find out and what you decide to do thumbsBTW, what body style,A,B or? is your car confused It looks like a 1970 Plymouth B body from the passenger side and looks some what like a 1967 to 1976 Dart A body from the drivers side confused
Nice car up bow


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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: justinp61] #2217092
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Originally Posted By justinp61
Nice car! Congrats on the new best. If you can get the 60' down with the mph it's running you should see .70s with no problems.


Thanks Justin! I tottaly agree with you and 416challenger. I need get my 60ft down.

Last time that I ran, my 60ft was terrible 1.79 and I decided change torque converter and build my own version of assassin bars.



I'm looking for a new set of adjustable shocks for my car. Here you can see a slow motion video that a friend made of my car on launch. Shocks will be required! punkrocka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLdQI8ctqV0


'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car
Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A
3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars
Best 1/8 mile ET
1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217094
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Take a look at that rear shackle angle with the suspension extended thumbs scope twocents


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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217127
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Short shocks will cause that bouncing..
drop the axle housing with the shocks off
and see if you have at least 1" that the
shock is longer.. quality shocks also help
wave

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Nice💪💪 another great running small block
Beautiful car... I would love some details on the body style.. kind of reminds me of a 68 Dodge Dart ...


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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217263
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NICE........... punkrocka


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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: Cab_Burge] #2217270
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Any idea what the humidity and barometric pressures where on that day? Looking at the color of the grass I would bet money it is very humid their work Which means a lot of humidity means thin air shruggy
I would focus on getting rid of the bouncing when leaving the starting line, look at the rear leaf spring angle first at rest and then jack the car up so the rear tires are off the ground and the suspension is not loaded, don't jack it up by the rear end housing and leave it on the jack in other words tsk
If the rear spring shackles are pointed straight down or pointed slightly forward from the upper eye then see about relocating the eye forward one or two inches in it or making the upper bracket longer with the bolt holes further forward so the shackles will be pointed back toward the leaf spring eye at rest and not pointed straight down or forward under acceleration scope
Fixing the shackle angle will make your sixty foot times better, that should eliminate the bouncing also, if that is what is causing it shruggy
Please let us know what you find out and what you decide to do thumbsBTW, what body style,A,B or? is your car confused It looks like a 1970 Plymouth B body from the passenger side and looks some what like a 1967 to 1976 Dart A body from the drivers side confused
Nice car up bow


f you bet your money at humidity you will don't loss them! lol Humidity was 63% and barometric pressure was 27.76in.

About the shackles, I think that you found my problem. I was back to garage with two pictures as you suggested and look at this:

Car on the jack, suspension no loaded


Car on the ground


I'm looking to make my own Sliders to change shackles. I believe that sliders will fix this problem. What do you think?

About the car, is an A-Body same body of 67-69 Dart. In Brazil when Charger was annouced they was a more powerfull version of Dart with some stetics and engine changes. In Brazil all Mopars was equipped with 318 but Dart had 198HP and Charger 215HP.

I know this is very weird for you. Charger A Body? Yes, in Brazil this was possible. laugh


'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car
Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A
3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars
Best 1/8 mile ET
1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: 360tripleblack77] #2217271
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Congrats, very nice looking car! up


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Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2217284
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Short shocks will cause that bouncing..
drop the axle housing with the shocks off
and see if you have at least 1" that the
shock is longer.. quality shocks also help
wave


Thanks Man, I will do that to check if I've this 1".

About the shocks I'm looking for Vikings. Looks like excellent quality.


'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car
Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A
3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars
Best 1/8 mile ET
1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
Re: My New Best - Brazil [Re: WHITEDART] #2217299
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Nice💪💪 another great running small block
Beautiful car... I would love some details on the body style.. kind of reminds me of a 68 Dodge Dart ...


Thanks Shiloh! I love your car, one of badass Dodge that I know! Awesome car and Killer Engine!

Body style is the same thats your Dart with little changes...

My car is called Charger R/T Triple Black because has Body, Vinyl and Interior in Black color. When this car was build people also called R/T Lotus because is Black with Golden stripes... This color combination remember Lotus that Ayrton Senna drove at Formula 1 (John Player Special).

About the body we have two main differences between Chargers and Darts in Brazil. Front where we've headlights hide and the rear we have a roof extension that we called "rabeta" in Brazil as you can see at the images below:







'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car
Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A
3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars
Best 1/8 mile ET
1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
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That is a super looking car. Congrats on the new best, too.


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The rear shackles aren't right..........but SHOCKS are what you need

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Originally Posted By 360tripleblack77
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Any idea what the humidity and barometric pressures where on that day? Looking at the color of the grass I would bet money it is very humid their work Which means a lot of humidity means thin air shruggy
I would focus on getting rid of the bouncing when leaving the starting line, look at the rear leaf spring angle first at rest and then jack the car up so the rear tires are off the ground and the suspension is not loaded, don't jack it up by the rear end housing and leave it on the jack in other words tsk
If the rear spring shackles are pointed straight down or pointed slightly forward from the upper eye then see about relocating the eye forward one or two inches in it or making the upper bracket longer with the bolt holes further forward so the shackles will be pointed back toward the leaf spring eye at rest and not pointed straight down or forward under acceleration scope
Fixing the shackle angle will make your sixty foot times better, that should eliminate the bouncing also, if that is what is causing it shruggy
Please let us know what you find out and what you decide to do thumbsBTW, what body style,A,B or? is your car confused It looks like a 1970 Plymouth B body from the passenger side and looks some what like a 1967 to 1976 Dart A body from the drivers side confused
Nice car up bow


f you bet your money at humidity you will don't loss them! lol Humidity was 63% and barometric pressure was 27.76in.

About the shackles, I think that you found my problem. I was back to garage with two pictures as you suggested and look at this:

Car on the jack, suspension no loaded


Car on the ground


I'm looking to make my own Sliders to change shackles. I believe that sliders will fix this problem. What do you think?

About the car, is an A-Body same body of 67-69 Dart. In Brazil when Charger was annouced they was a more powerfull version of Dart with some stetics and engine changes. In Brazil all Mopars was equipped with 318 but Dart had 198HP and Charger 215HP.

I know this is very weird for you. Charger A Body? Yes, in Brazil this was possible. laugh


Been down that road and yes, sliders will fix that as long as you set em up correctly. I installed mine a few years ago and love em even on the street...........


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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