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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: cudaman1969] #2197747
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
[quote=dvw]Are they leaking between the plug and block or are the rusted through from the back side? I'd support the motor and drop the K-frame before I pulled the motor.
Doug [/quot]
I think I could pull an engine faster than dropping a k-member
Steering shaft, motor mount bolts, front shock bolts, lower ball joint nuts, outer tie rod nuts, loosen the torsion bars, cradle bolts. Sounds like 15 fasteners to me. Just a thought
Doug

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: dvw] #2197778
11/17/16 02:19 AM
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The factory put the drivetrain in from the bottom, when I put my B engine in my 68 Barracuda it was easy.

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: dart4forte] #2197795
11/17/16 02:52 AM
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How bad are they leaking?

I know it's kind of a hack fix but assuming these are new plugs perhaps a stopleak might cure it. Bar's Leaks has a good reputation for plugging leaks without plugging the rad/heater core.

If there is any rust scale left inside the block it could cure itself.

Either way it's got to be better than pulling the engine or K-frame. If it works, bonus thumbs. If not, well you were resigned to pulling the engine anyway and you're only out a few bucks for Bar's Leaks.

I was never a fan of rad caps much over 7 psi but I see you live close to the surface of the sun so perhaps it's a necessity.

If your system doesn't ever venture much over 200F tho I'd run 60% anti freeze in it which even at atmospheric pressure will boil 225-230F and with an 8 psi cap, 250F.

Kevin

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: Twostick] #2197811
11/17/16 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Twostick
How bad are they leaking?

I know it's kind of a hack fix but assuming these are new plugs perhaps a stopleak might cure it. Bar's Leaks has a good reputation for plugging leaks without plugging the rad/heater core.

If there is any rust scale left inside the block it could cure itself.

Either way it's got to be better than pulling the engine or K-frame. If it works, bonus thumbs. If not, well you were resigned to pulling the engine anyway and you're only out a few bucks for Bar's Leaks.

I was never a fan of rad caps much over 7 psi but I see you live close to the surface of the sun so perhaps it's a necessity.

If your system doesn't ever venture much over 200F tho I'd run 60% anti freeze in it which even at atmospheric pressure will boil 225-230F and with an 8 psi cap, 250F.


Yeah, when I refilled the rad it didn't seem to leak much but when it's under pressure 16psi which is stock it comes out at a pretty good clip.

Kevin


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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: dart4forte] #2197850
11/17/16 10:38 AM
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Like already said, since they are brass and not rusted all you have to do is use Barrs leak or K seal and they will seal up for sure. Normal deal to use a sealer in this case, no big deal and will last forever.

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: Challenger 1] #2198180
11/17/16 09:12 PM
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Well, given that this car was full on resto I think it deserves an appropriate repair. Its obvious the three freeze plugs have been compromised. Given that I'm a little unsure of the plugs on the driver side. Bar Leak is ok in my mind as an emergency temp fix but I don't feel comfortable depending on a snakeoil remedy. The motor is going to be dropped out, just when and where is the question.


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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: dart4forte] #2198211
11/17/16 10:18 PM
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When I was doing OEM cooling system stuff a few years back, they were using stopleak tablets at the factory.


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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: SteveS] #2198221
11/17/16 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted By SteveS
When I was doing OEM cooling system stuff a few years back, they were using stopleak tablets at the factory.


That's right, not a half azz way to seal it. Just as long as the right plugs were installed properly you are major wasting your time taking them in and out. That is crazy...use the sealer and it is not snake oil. And will seal them up forever like I said before. Been there done it many times.

If you don't like Barrs leak, then use K Seal. Both of which I have used many times on big trucks that work real hard day after day for years. They are used very differently though, read the directions on both. I have installed cooling parts where the directions instruct you use sealer after the install.

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: dart4forte] #2198228
11/17/16 10:46 PM
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I have successfully sealed a cracked castiron head that was leaking water into the oil with K Seal. The lift truck was used for another 10 years after the K Seal with a cracked head. The oil and water stayed separate after that till I got rid of the lift truck. Sure helped with the resale value too.

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: Challenger 1] #2198240
11/17/16 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
I have successfully sealed a cracked castiron head that was leaking water into the oil with K Seal. The lift truck was used for another 10 years after the K Seal with a cracked head. The oil and water stayed separate after that till I got rid of the lift truck. Sure helped with the resale value too.


Water Glass (Sodium Silicate) is another good sealer/repair. I suspect it may be the active ingredient in K Seal if it sealed up a cracked head.

It needs to be used with caution tho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate

Kevin

Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms [Re: skicker] #2198349
11/18/16 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted By skicker
Were they dry on install?
A few here will know better than me but I have always used the Indian Head Shellac on soft plugs...brass or steel... twocents


I have been using indian head shellac on gaskets and freeze plugs for 20+ years. This stuff is the cats meow on freeze plugs. Works great on pipe threads too.

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