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How much hp from a oem replacement fuel pump #2142884
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Subject says it all. How much can a factory o reilly's replacement pump support? I have a 360 that had around 375 at the flywheel. Just wondering if I'm leaving anything on the table running a factory pump. It does seem to lay over a little at higher rpm but I didn't know if that's a fuel issue or just running out of cylinder head. I plan to install a wide band at some point but haven't yet. Just doing a little bench racing

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Go get the Carter high volume mechanical. Just do it.


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Re: How much hp from a oem replacement fuel pump [Re: skj283] #2142995
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A pressure gauge you can see at the top end is about the only way you will know for sure if you are low on flow capacity. Every combo is a bit different due to small differences in the lines, etc. Best to go with a better stock type pump and be sure you have enough flow by checking.

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Re: How much hp from a oem replacement fuel pump [Re: thedriver] #2142996
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I would guess around 350 gross HP max for the stock style pump.

At 375 you are pushing it. One way to be sure would be to "T" a fuel pressure gauge into the carb feed. Keep it outside the pass compartment, taped to the windshield for example, and make a run and see how it does.

Hopefully you already have 3/8" lines and pickup.

Re: How much hp from a oem replacement fuel pump [Re: skj283] #2143040
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Carter high volume mechanical
Stock 5/16 lines and pick-up.

440 with a plate nitrous system in a 67 Belvedere. It would nose over at 112 mph with the previous stock style pump...so another vote for the Carter!!

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Re: How much hp from a oem replacement fuel pump [Re: skj283] #2143077
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I had a carter high volume pump and 3/8 lines front to back on my street 360, ran high 12's with 3.23's and stock converter. Fuel pressure gauge showed pressure dropping to 1-3 psi at the top end. Replaced with a BG electric pump, full 1/2" return system . No changed in ET, and the pump was loud...never again.


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Re: How much hp from a oem replacement fuel pump [Re: skj283] #2143084
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You can get way more than 350 HP from a stock pump! I have 500+ HP 446 with a 6 pack and a hemi return filter and have plenty of fuel even with the fuel returning to the tank.

I also have 340 with eddie heads and hi compression 11-1 and have run the car three different years out at Bonneville at wide open throttle for more than 5 miles at a time with a hemi return filter and did not run out of fuel with a stock airtex mechanical fuel pump. I beat the car for many passes out there and never ran out of fuel even with a return line. How many can say they tested there fuel system that way?

Plus I have run many drag cars all the way to 3000 HP and know fuel systems well.

Your 360 is fine with a mechanical fuel pump and you don't need more from my experience unless you got money to burn and want to worry about vapor lock with the wrong sized pump and lines.

Like said above, plenty of fast cars with 5/16" lines and mechanical pumps.

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That's what I was wondering. I feel like fuel systems end up way overbuilt a lot of times. Was really wanting some real world ets on stock stuff. I have a carter on the shelf I may stick on but I think I'll stick a gauge on it for curiosity sake first. Thanks fellas!

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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
You can get way more than 350 HP from a stock pump! I have 500+ HP 446 with a 6 pack and a hemi return filter and have plenty of fuel even with the fuel returning to the tank.

I also have 340 with eddie heads and hi compression 11-1 and have run the car three different years out at Bonneville at wide open throttle for more than 5 miles at a time with a hemi return filter and did not run out of fuel with a stock airtex mechanical fuel pump. I beat the car for many passes out there and never ran out of fuel even with a return line. How many can say they tested there fuel system that way?

Plus I have run many drag cars all the way to 3000 HP and know fuel systems well.

Your 360 is fine with a mechanical fuel pump and you don't need more from my experience unless you got money to burn and want to worry about vapor lock with the wrong sized pump and lines.

Like said above, plenty of fast cars with 5/16" lines and mechanical pumps.


"Hemi return filter" do you mean the vapor can that looks like a filter? If so they only had a 1/16 " hole for vapor and maybe some fuel returning to the tank. Just read about this in my 69 Plymouth service manual. They were used in the hp 440 and hemi cars because the higher pressure pumps they used would tend to vapor lock.
Use the high volume pump with the good cam eccentric. Make sure to reset the floats since the pressure will be higher. That test for pumps where you time how fast it fills a gallon can, bs, marketing ploy by Barry Grant
Correction, went back and looked in the manual of the fuel separator and it does have a screen in it.

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Originally Posted By skj283
That's what I was wondering. I feel like fuel systems end up way overbuilt a lot of times. Was really wanting some real world ets on stock stuff. I have a carter on the shelf I may stick on but I think I'll stick a gauge on it for curiosity sake first. Thanks fellas!


Did a 750 Proform carb for a customer and he swore the tune was off so we spent a few hrs messing w/it then I convinced him to install a fuel pressure gauge and sure enuff, it was falling from 6, 5, 4, 3 then 2 lbs as the r`s went up. Put a bigger mechanical pump on and had to jet the carb back up and it now flys..........


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Where was this at hp wise?

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Ive had stock fuel pumps fail to deliver enough fuel on stock 440,s 350 hp. Get a bigger pump. Put a fuel psi gauge on it to prove it for yourself.

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iagree A good high volume mechanical pump will work great on some pretty serious motors. A stock replacement pump...not so much.


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Probably 400+ mild small block stroker but just guessing........

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