Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Like the title says - why adjustable rockers with a hydraulic cam?
This question came up recently with some car guys I know. I have used them before in a 340 - but really don't have a good answer.
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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I can answer that question! Dealing with that right now on my 383. In order to get reasonable preload, not only did I need custom pushrods, but they needed to be 2 different lengths. Since the pushrods tend to be within 0.005" tolerance of each other, I optimized the lengths and now have preload of 0.035" to 0.044" = right where I wanted to be.
Real pain and if I had adjustable rockers you just turn the adjuster screw instead of 2 different length pushrods.
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Preload seems legit. I was thinking that people ditched stamped rockers because they weren't a true 1.5 ratio- but that's just a guess.0
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Preload seems legit. I was thinking that people ditched stamped rockers because they weren't a true 1.5 ratio- but that's just a guess.0 I have heard this too.
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Like the title says - why adjustable rockers with a hydraulic cam?
This question came up recently with some car guys I know. I have used them before in a 340 - but really don't have a good answer. I run adjustable roller rockers on all my toys, smblk and Bblk RB, I like the 1.6 ratio arms, usually Crane or Isky, plus I run anti pump up hyd. lifters on all the motors as well, so I need the adjustabilty factor, plus the 1.6 is good for up to another .050 lift on the cam with out getting the additional duration
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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why adjustable rockers with a hydraulic cam? mainly for preload #2 wipe pattern 3rd is pushrod angle at adjuster cup
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Does the preload become more important with a larger, more aggressive cam? Just curious why most stock engines had non adjustable rockers.
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Are ductile iron adjustable rockers ok for a 500 horse street 440?
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Stamped rockers don't always hold up well to stiffer springs and more rpm too.
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Also if you run a decked block and or milled heads it changes the lifter preload so they are nice to have to set preload as was said. Ron Plus custom push rods to keep it all happy.
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Re: Why use adjustable rocker with a hydraulic cam?
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Real pain and if I had adjustable rockers you just turn the adjuster screw instead of 2 different length pushrods. The last 2 hyd. cam builds I did I went with adjustable pushrods, I got the exact amount of preload I wanted on every lifter.
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