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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: lakerism] #1169192 02/01/12 07:05 PM 02/01/12 07:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa	The question I responded to asked about 73-74 Cudas. The standard engine was the 318.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: burdar] #1169193 02/02/12 01:11 PM 02/02/12 01:11 PM
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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 6bblgt] #1169194 02/02/12 02:59 PM 02/02/12 02:59 PM
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GuruRanger super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,102 Salem, OH (Quaker City Raceway...	Quote: NO factory dual exhaust or 4bbl on 318 powered e-bodies. That's interesting, I never knew that the later 'Cuda was offered with a 318 2V with no dual exhaust with it. Yet you could get a 318 2V Road Runner in '73-'74 and it came with dual exhaust and machine gun tips. I have a '73 Road Runner, factory 318 2V, Pistolgrip 4 speed car (rarest combo that year, 1 of 350) with dual exhaust and tips: 7050151-brown1973roadrunner.jpg (202 downloads) Last edited by GuruRanger; 02/09/12 06:02 PM.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: GuruRanger] #1169195 02/02/12 05:37 PM 02/02/12 05:37 PM
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Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	I saw a new 73 road runner with 318 4spd and was ordered with track pak ?? Saw the car came threw with 3.55s and 26 inch rad. Car was totalled few years later

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #1169196 02/02/12 06:34 PM 02/02/12 06:34 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	For the uninformed, the base level Plymouth E-body was called Barracuda. The high performance one was called 'Cuda and the luxury one was called Gran Coupe. The 'Cuda was the counterpart of the Challenger R/T. So many people call every Plymouth E-body a 'Cuda but that's not accurate. R.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: dogdays] #1169197 02/08/12 01:35 PM 02/08/12 01:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 477 Clarkston,MI Todd_DesMarais super street
Todd_DesMarais super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 477 Clarkston,MI	By "non-ralley" I meant the instrumant cluster. The only available options mine didn't come with are; fender mounted turn indicators, ralley dash, am/fm w/cassette, hood pins, and the aformentioned 360 w/dual exhaust. Also, my car is not a Barracuda nor a Gran Coupe, it is a BS23 'Cuda and had the 318/904 combo. From what I have researched, in '73 the BS23 'Cuda came with a 318 2bbl standard and a 340 4bbl option. in '74 it was a 318 2bbl standard and 360 4bbl option. I have never seen nor heard of a '73-4 318 manual trans 'Cuda and neither Galen or his books could tell me if any exist. Still hard to imagine a loaded, badged out 'Cuda with a single pipe ! aduC' 47 IIeredevleB 66 383 etilletaS 66 DTC 0053 MAR 50 "ssenlli latnem a dna ,ybboh a neewteb enil enif a si ereht"

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: Todd_DesMarais] #1169198 02/08/12 04:52 PM 02/08/12 04:52 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,321 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: By "non-ralley" I meant the instrumant cluster. The only available options mine didn't come with are; fender mounted turn indicators, ralley dash, am/fm w/cassette, hood pins, and the aformentioned 360 w/dual exhaust. Also, my car is not a Barracuda nor a Gran Coupe, it is a BS23 'Cuda and had the 318/904 combo. From what I have researched, in '73 the BS23 'Cuda came with a 318 2bbl standard and a 340 4bbl option. in '74 it was a 318 2bbl standard and 360 4bbl option. I have never seen nor heard of a '73-4 318 manual trans 'Cuda and neither Galen or his books could tell me if any exist. Still hard to imagine a loaded, badged out 'Cuda with a single pipe ! Hood pins were not available on the 73 E-bodies. As for the trans, you could get a 318 2 bbl, single exhaust and it came with a 3-spd floor-mounted manual. 4-spd not available with the 318 in 73. Torqueflite was optional. On E-bodies, 4-spd was only available on the 340 in 73, 360 in 74.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 318 Stroker] #1169199 02/08/12 07:17 PM 02/08/12 07:17 PM
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C_B5 super stock C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,070 Ohio	To add even further confusion to how the model lines were marketed by dodge & plymouth. The 72 Challenger rallye (JS in VIN) base engine was the 318 2 barrel even though it came with all the rallye parts (dash, scooped hood, sway bars etc). Interestingly the 340 was optional on the Challenger rallye which was supposed to be the high performance model. Then there's the base model Challenger (with JH VIN) that had the 6 cylinder or 318 as base engine. Whereas the 72 Cuda came standard with the 340 engine. This has always perplexed me on what the rational was behind how the high performance models were aligned.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: C_B5] #1169200 02/08/12 08:56 PM 02/08/12 08:56 PM
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MN-ScatPack master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,188 Twin Cities, MN	Second digit This is the price class. The 1970-71 Challenger R/T and 1972 Rallye have the letter "S" (for Special). All others (including the 1973-4 Rallye) have the letter "H" (for High). The Challenger Deputy is reported to have been "L" (for Low) but examples seen seem to have the "H" instead.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #1169201 02/08/12 10:57 PM 02/08/12 10:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa	I think the 340 was standard in the 72 Cuda very early on in production. I think there is some factory literature on Hamtramck-historical stating that the 318 would be the standard engine in the 72 Cuda after a certain date. I'd have to look for it to be certain. EDIT: Here is the bulletin dated Sept 24, 1971. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...p%20pib%205.jpg Last edited by burdar; 02/08/12 11:03 PM.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 318 Stroker] #1169202 02/09/12 05:43 PM 02/09/12 05:43 PM
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Todd_DesMarais super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 477 Clarkston,MI	Quote: Hood pins were not available on the 73 E-bodies. As for the trans, you could get a 318 2 bbl, single exhaust and it came with a 3-spd floor-mounted manual. 4-spd not available with the 318 in 73. Torqueflite was optional. On E-bodies, 4-spd was only available on the 340 in 73, 360 in 74. Were hood pins available on a '74 BS23G (318) 'Cuda and if so, was the "Plymouth" nameplate still in the front corner ? I have an earlier hoodpin hood that has no notches in the brace for the three studs to mount the nameplate (I assume so the lanyard doesn't rub on it) and a later non-hoodpin hood that has them. Either way, it will have pins and dual exhaust if/when I ever get to finish it. aduC' 47 IIeredevleB 66 383 etilletaS 66 DTC 0053 MAR 50 "ssenlli latnem a dna ,ybboh a neewteb enil enif a si ereht"

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: Todd_DesMarais] #1169203 02/09/12 07:29 PM 02/09/12 07:29 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,321 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: Quote: Hood pins were not available on the 73 E-bodies. As for the trans, you could get a 318 2 bbl, single exhaust and it came with a 3-spd floor-mounted manual. 4-spd not available with the 318 in 73. Torqueflite was optional. On E-bodies, 4-spd was only available on the 340 in 73, 360 in 74. Were hood pins available on a '74 BS23G (318) 'Cuda and if so, was the "Plymouth" nameplate still in the front corner ? I have an earlier hoodpin hood that has no notches in the brace for the three studs to mount the nameplate (I assume so the lanyard doesn't rub on it) and a later non-hoodpin hood that has them. Either way, it will have pins and dual exhaust if/when I ever get to finish it. Hood pins were not offered on any 72-74 E-bodies. As far as putting them on your 73 Cuda, go for it... I put them on my 73 Challenger, and like them alot. I also put on the duals w/ factory tips.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #2133141 08/15/16 12:11 AM 08/15/16 12:11 AM
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MooVstunts member M Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23 Ontario, Canada	It appears the 3rd one on the list: BH27G1B 390008 513 SA 4 sp U x722x GB5 H6XW V3W A01,A36,B51,C16,C55,G37,H51,J45,J54,M21,P31,P37,R21,26 is up for sale on ebey... ebay link to 1971 Barracuda Convertible 318 car Last edited by MooVstunts; 08/15/16 12:12 AM.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #2133154 08/15/16 12:24 AM 08/15/16 12:24 AM
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MooVstunts member M Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23 Ontario, Canada	fender tag...

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: MooVstunts] #2133207 08/15/16 01:40 AM 08/15/16 01:40 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	that is NOT a Chrysler Corp. produced fender tag

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: GuruRanger] #2134079 08/16/16 01:56 AM 08/16/16 01:56 AM
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RTSrunner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,881 Pittsburgh,PA	Not to hijack the E-body thread..but I have the sister car to your 'Runner a '74 Charger Rallye with a 318-2bbl and a console shifted pistol grip 4-speed. I'm sure it's rare too! ~RT Originally Posted By GuruRanger Quote: NO factory dual exhaust or 4bbl on 318 powered e-bodies. That's interesting, I never knew that the later 'Cuda was offered with a 318 2V with no dual exhaust with it. Yet you could get a 318 2V Road Runner in '73-'74 and it came with dual exhaust and machine gun tips. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif" alt="" /> I have a '73 Road Runner, factory 318 2V, Pistolgrip 4 speed car (rarest combo that year, 1 of 350) with dual exhaust and tips:

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: dogdays] #2134371 08/16/16 02:41 PM 08/16/16 02:41 PM
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HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt.	Originally Posted By dogdays For the uninformed, the base level Plymouth E-body was called Barracuda. The high performance one was called 'Cuda and the luxury one was called Gran Coupe. The 'Cuda was the counterpart of the Challenger R/T. So many people call every Plymouth E-body a 'Cuda but that's not accurate. R. The public was calling all barracudas "cudas" long before plymouth did their performance barracuda. I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #2134391 08/16/16 03:12 PM 08/16/16 03:12 PM
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dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,137 Mesa, Arizona	I know a guy that has two RRs 73/74 318, 2 barrel duel exhaust with tips. One is a 4 speed “So if it’s on the internet it must be true” Abe Lincoln

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #2134506 08/16/16 06:06 PM 08/16/16 06:06 PM
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joelson6 super stock J Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 863 Pinelands , NJ	there's one on CL in NJ right now http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5733201722.html

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: joelson6] #2134513 08/16/16 06:14 PM 08/16/16 06:14 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	1970 E-body * 318 w/4-speed was an available OPTION 1971 E-body * 318 w/4-speed was NOT an available OPTION

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