Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain
'71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 07:05 AM
Ola's e-body 'vert registry lists 6 318 4-speed Barracudas, including one with a shaker.
Is it possible to have such an engine/trans combo in 1971? I just flat out don't believe the 318 shaker car.
BH27G1B 189799 A20 TU 4 sp U x722x GY3 H6XW V3W B51,C16,C55,G36,P37,R11
BH27G1B 388298 5xx 4 sp ? x722x EV2 H6X9 V3X
BH27G1B 390008 513 SA 4 sp U x722x GB5 H6XW V3W A01,A36,B51,C16,C55,G37,H51,J45,J54,M21,P31,P37,R21,26
BH27G1B 426254 611 FR 4 sp U x722x GY3 H6X9 V3X C55,Rxx
BH27G1B 4 sp ? x722x GY3 H6X9 V3X V6X A01,A22,G36,J25,J45,J81,L34,M25,M31,M88,N41,N42,N96,Rxx
Then there's also 3 Challenger 318s w/4-speeds:
JH27G1B 154809 924 TH 4 sp ? x2165x FC7 H6XW V3W V5W C16,C55,G36,H51,M31,P37,Rxx,26
JH27G1B 156875 9xx 25 or 26 4 sp U x1793x FE5 H6X9 V3X A62,G33,N85,P37
JH27G1B 238789 C09 TU 4 sp U x1793x TX9 H6X9 V3X V5X A46,C55,G15,G31,G33,L31,M31,M42,M44,P37,R11
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 07:45 AM
Yes, 1971 & 318 & 4-spd is possible in a Barracuda convertible - the '71 production numbers are a bit messed up, but in '70 ~58 were built (US spec.). The lack of a VIN# on the one with the N96 would lead me to believe that those are visual clues to ID it if further info became available.
Here's a '70 Barracuda convertible
factory pink, 318, 4-spd, A/C, & AM/FM.
pic "stolen" from pantherpink.com
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 05:51 PM
I was specifically referring to 1971s.
According to:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mopared/productionchange.htm"8/20/70: Code D21, 4-speed transmission, is not available with 198, 225, 318 or 383-2v engines. "
I guess there could have been a few 1971 four-speed 318s squeek through before that date.
Posted By: DAYCLONA
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 06:21 PM
Seen my share of E body 318 4 spds over the decades, parted a few, including a vert,....but a "SHAKER" 318?,...dealer install possible, factory?
....not buying that
Posted By: mopars_1
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 07:12 PM
a shaker on a 318 would have to be a one off base plate to fit a 2 barrel. and if they would have had a 318 4 bbl (not optional), more than likely it was dealer installed.
Posted By: fireeng
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 09:11 PM
How does it ( N96 ) get on the fender tag if it was dealer installed???
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 10:24 PM
Ya, should ask Ola how that car got in his registry.
Note the V6X on there too.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 11:15 PM
NO factory dual exhaust or 4bbl on 318 powered e-bodies.
IIRC, LA318 didn't get a 4bbl until 1978.
Posted By: fireeng
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 01/31/12 11:41 PM
I believe my 71 318 was built sept 22, 1970. My vin is jh23g1b150402, does this mean I have the 402nd challenger built at hamtramck?
Posted By: fireeng
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/01/12 11:54 AM
Thanks for the explanation. Sorry for the hijack.
Posted By: Todd_DesMarais
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/01/12 04:51 PM
"Can anyone tell me if the 318 rallye challengers or cudas in 73 and 74 came with duel exhaust and/or four barrels?
"
This is a great question as my car is a true 318 'Cuda (BS23G4B14xxxx) but the trunk pan has the single tip hanger and no evidence of a second pipe. Kinda hard to imagine a real 'Cuda with a non 'Cuda valence panel.
BTW, mine was a yellow/blk top 318/904, A/C, rear swaybar, console, non-ralley car. Now it's a hulk of metal & parts waiting patiently in the corner.
Todd
Posted By: burdar
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/01/12 06:50 PM
The standard engine for the Cuda was a 318. No four barrel or dual exhaust were ever offered on a 318 E-body.
I guess I don't know what you mean by non-rallye when talking about a Cuda? Do you mean non-rallye dash? The Rallye dash was standard in a Rallye Challenger but optional in the Cuda.
Posted By: lakerism
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/01/12 11:02 PM
Um, the standard enging for a 'Cuda was NOT a 318
It was a 383
318 IS standard on the Barracuda
Posted By: burdar
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/01/12 11:05 PM
The question I responded to asked about 73-74 Cudas. The standard engine was the 318.
Posted By: Paul_Fancsali
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/02/12 09:37 PM
I saw a new 73 road runner with 318 4spd and was ordered with track pak ?? Saw the car came threw with 3.55s and 26 inch rad. Car was totalled few years later
Posted By: dogdays
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/02/12 10:34 PM
For the uninformed, the base level Plymouth E-body was called Barracuda. The high performance one was called 'Cuda and the luxury one was called Gran Coupe. The 'Cuda was the counterpart of the Challenger R/T.
So many people call every Plymouth E-body a 'Cuda but that's not accurate.
R.
Posted By: Todd_DesMarais
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/08/12 05:35 PM
By "non-ralley" I meant the instrumant cluster.
The only available options mine didn't come with are; fender mounted turn indicators, ralley dash, am/fm w/cassette, hood pins, and the aformentioned 360 w/dual exhaust. Also, my car is not a Barracuda nor a Gran Coupe, it is a BS23 'Cuda and had the 318/904 combo.
From what I have researched, in '73 the BS23 'Cuda came with a 318 2bbl standard and a 340 4bbl option. in '74 it was a 318 2bbl standard and 360 4bbl option. I have never seen nor heard of a '73-4 318 manual trans 'Cuda and neither Galen or his books could tell me if any exist.
Still hard to imagine a loaded, badged out 'Cuda with a single pipe !
Posted By: C_B5
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/08/12 11:17 PM
To add even further confusion to how the model lines were marketed by dodge & plymouth. The 72 Challenger rallye (JS in VIN) base engine was the 318 2 barrel even though it came with all the rallye parts (dash, scooped hood, sway bars etc). Interestingly the 340 was optional on the Challenger rallye which was supposed to be the high performance model. Then there's the base model Challenger (with JH VIN) that had the 6 cylinder or 318 as base engine. Whereas the 72 Cuda came standard with the 340 engine. This has always perplexed me on what the rational was behind how the high performance models were aligned.
Posted By: MN-ScatPack
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/09/12 12:56 AM
Second digit
This is the price class. The 1970-71 Challenger R/T and 1972 Rallye have the letter "S" (for Special). All others (including the 1973-4 Rallye) have the letter "H" (for High). The Challenger Deputy is reported to have been "L" (for Low) but examples seen seem to have the "H" instead.
Posted By: burdar
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 02/09/12 02:57 AM
I think the 340 was standard in the 72 Cuda very early on in production. I think there is some factory literature on Hamtramck-historical stating that the 318 would be the standard engine in the 72 Cuda after a certain date. I'd have to look for it to be certain.
EDIT:
Here is the bulletin dated Sept 24, 1971.
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...p%20pib%205.jpg
Posted By: MooVstunts
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/15/16 04:11 AM
It appears the 3rd one on the list:
BH27G1B 390008 513 SA 4 sp U x722x GB5 H6XW V3W A01,A36,B51,C16,C55,G37,H51,J45,J54,M21,P31,P37,R21,26
is up for sale on ebey...
ebay link to 1971 Barracuda Convertible 318 car
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/15/16 05:40 AM
that is NOT a Chrysler Corp. produced fender tag
Posted By: RTSrunner
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 05:56 AM
Not to hijack the E-body thread..but I have the sister car to your 'Runner a '74 Charger Rallye with a 318-2bbl and a console shifted pistol grip 4-speed. I'm sure it's rare too! ~RT
NO factory dual exhaust or 4bbl on 318 powered e-bodies.
That's interesting, I never knew that the later 'Cuda was offered with a 318 2V with no dual exhaust with it. Yet you could get a 318 2V Road Runner in '73-'74 and it came with dual exhaust and machine gun tips. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif" alt="" />
I have a '73 Road Runner, factory 318 2V, Pistolgrip 4 speed car (rarest combo that year, 1 of 350) with dual exhaust and tips:
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 06:41 PM
For the uninformed, the base level Plymouth E-body was called Barracuda. The high performance one was called 'Cuda and the luxury one was called Gran Coupe. The 'Cuda was the counterpart of the Challenger R/T.
So many people call every Plymouth E-body a 'Cuda but that's not accurate.
R.
The public was calling all barracudas "cudas" long before plymouth did their performance barracuda.
Posted By: dart4forte
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 07:12 PM
I know a guy that has two RRs 73/74 318, 2 barrel duel exhaust with tips. One is a 4 speed
Posted By: joelson6
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 10:06 PM
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 10:14 PM
1970 E-body * 318 w/4-speed was an available OPTION
1971 E-body * 318 w/4-speed was NOT an available OPTION
Posted By: MooVstunts
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 11:36 PM
that is NOT a Chrysler Corp. produced fender tag
I totally thought the tag was too good to be true... but what is the "tell?"
Posted By: MooVstunts
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/16/16 11:37 PM
Tag from the Craigslist Convertible...
First time I've seen V5B (plenty of V5X).
Posted By: denfireguy
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/17/16 05:52 PM
VIN number in ad is incorrect. There is a number where the engine letter should be.
BTW, this was a 4 year old thread that got resurrected.
Craig
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? - 08/17/16 10:09 PM
VIN number in ad is incorrect. There is a number where the engine letter should be.
BTW, this was a 4 year old thread that got resurrected.
Craig
true - because one of the original cars (BH27G1B390008) that the thread was started about was recently listed on eBay.
I put them on my 73 Challenger, and like them alot. I also put on the duals w/ factory tips.
