Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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Sometimes I take a bearing knife and cut the shiny spot off until it turns free and sometimes I just run it. I've never had a bad experience, and some of them I thought were way too tight.
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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If you know where the spot is... clearance it.. it should spin freely with just using your hand and spin a few turns
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/10/16 06:43 PM
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Make yourself a reamer by making diagonal hacksaw cuts in each bearing journal of an old cam.
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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Make yourself a reamer by making diagonal hacksaw cuts in each bearing journal of an old cam. I have one of these sizer cams but its for a SB.. nothing for a B or RB
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/10/16 08:31 PM
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It will take a while with the Scotch Brite.DAMHIK...
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/10/16 10:23 PM
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because scotchbrite is an abrasive and will leave minute particles of that abrasive in the bearing surface also you will need to wash the block out again if you haven't already done so,,a bearing knife is the proper way.
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/12/16 02:56 PM
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I thought it had to be bent some to not rotate freely. I have heard of some people straightening them with a hammer and a dull chisel, NOT ME though You should be good, I have had to scrape more than one new cam bearing due to Mopars poor machining of the cam tunnel not getting one or more of them not the proper I.D. One of the better machine shops I use to use in SO CA would use a small cylinder hone to enlarge them
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/12/16 03:25 PM
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According to E-booger the factory align-bored cam bearings after installation.
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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ok, I checked the cam for straightness. looks like .0005-.001 out. I scraped the bearings with a sharp pocket knife and blended with scotch brite pad. spins good now without binding, but is a snug fit. You really have a hard on for the scotch brite pad , its not something that should be used on an assembled motor , nevermind a bearing ... What do you mean by it spins good ? Put a gear on it and spin it , does it stop immediate is you try to spin it fast and let go or does it do a revolution or 2 ? If it stops you still have high spots ... more scotch brite ...
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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ok, I checked the cam for straightness. looks like .0005-.001 out. I scraped the bearings with a sharp pocket knife and blended with scotch brite pad. spins good now without binding, but is a snug fit. You really have a hard on for the scotch brite pad , its not something that should be used on an assembled motor , nevermind a bearing ... what do you mean by it spins good ? Put a gear on it and spin it , does it stop immeadiate is you try to spin it fast and let go or does it do a revolution or 2 ? If it stops you still have high spots ... more scotch brite ...
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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According to E-booger the factory align-bored cam bearings after installation.
According to my old machinest you can't align hone the cam tunnel on any modern day(1951 to current production as of 2003) Mopar V8 due to the tunnel has five diofferent sizes, just like the cam journals have Maybe Ebooger thought they honed them after installing the bearings on the blocks that the cam would stick in It never ceases amaze me to hear urban myths repeated over the internet, supposidily from a relaiblle source
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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Last edited by Cab_Burge; 08/13/16 01:51 PM.
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/13/16 05:03 PM
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According to E-booger the factory align-bored cam bearings after installation.
According to my old machinest you can't align hone the cam tunnel on any modern day(1951 to current production as of 2003) Mopar V8 due to the tunnel has five diofferent sizes, Sure you can, just use a boring tool with five different cutter diameters. Don't confuse align- boring with align- honing.
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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08/14/16 12:28 PM
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As said common issue with bb mopar. Don't sweat it. Ive seen cams that would barely turn with a wrench on the bolt, after some run time it turned like it was on roller bearings. If you only had to massage just one spot on one bearing you got a good block...
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Re: fitting a cam into a fresh 400 block
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I never did understand why they made each bearing size different... my 50mm rollers works just fine with all of them being one size
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