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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2124109
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I think the water/jokenol mix is what is corrosive. That stuff will leach the copper out of brass jets and leave green residue permanently to the alum in the carb bowl. I drive a ways to a gas station with pure gas and pay the extra cost - it's worth it.

As for the F-33 Bonanza, they are also aerobatic. I watched Pat Epps do an airshow over his brother's airstrip one day as a thunderstorm was rolling in. It was maybe a 1000' ceiling and he was doing hammerhead stalls. Impressive but stoopit. he made it down before the first gust hit and the subsequent bottom falling out, but not by much time.

Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: astjp2] #2124110
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I run E85 pump fuel in my race car, it was built to be raced on straight methanol so the E 85 doesn't harm the fuel system. I bought a QuickFuel brand E85 tester and it uses a small amount of water and fuel in a small tube, you put in a specific amount fuel and add the a specific amount of water into the tube and shake it well and wait for the seperation to read the results. It does seem to remove either some of the alochol or water because when you mix the water it will be at the top of the tube markings and after I shake it that tube has less fluids in it than before shaking it confused


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2124113
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You put 20cc's of water in a 100cc graduated cylinder and fill the rest up with gas - that's 80cc more. Shake it up and when it settles the water/jokenol will now be 28cc if it is 10%. The reason they are going to 15% is because the Frikkin law says how much "renewable" fuel will be used annually and as gasoline consumption drops, which it has nationally, they have to blend in more. Oboma doesn't care about our stuff going bad cause we should all be driving chebby volts and besides like C4C, destroy a existing car and people will have to buy another, stimulating the economy.

Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2124944
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We used 100LL Av Gas for years with no problems.


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When I first started drag racing at the tracks in SO CA in the ealry 1970s avaition gas was offered in three grades I can remember, 80/85 octane, 100/115 and 115 /145 octane. The lower number represented the rich octane rating on take off and the upper number represented the lean rating. The 115/145 was lowered later in the late 1970s to 115/135 and finally drop all together once the airlines stop using the older piston driven airliners whiney


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Cab_Burge] #2125199
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
When I first started drag racing at the tracks in SO CA in the ealry 1970s avaition gas was offered in three grades I can remember, 80/85 octane, 100/115 and 115 /145 octane. The lower number represented the rich octane rating on take off and the upper number represented the lean rating. The 115/145 was lowered later in the late 1970s to 115/135 and finally drop all together once the airlines stop using the older piston driven airliners whiney


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2125301
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Airwoofer,

Is there anywhere in town that still sells 100% gas in 93?

Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: venom107] #2125694
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Originally Posted By venom107
Airwoofer,

Is there anywhere in town that still sells 100% gas in 93?


Can't help you on where to find it in your area, but I can tell you if you find straight gas it is going to be 91 octane because like said above they use ethanol to get it up to 93. So if you see 93 than it has ethanol in it.

I have a fuel business in Cincinnati and we are the only one of 2 places who sells straight gas for many years now. Even the marinas on the river are selling ethanol gas around here and they only sell gas on the river for like 3 months during the boating season. We have race gas and straight 91 gas year round at a nice new credit card swiper pump for close to 30 years now. Too bad you don't live around here.

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All pump 91 here in Cally is 10% or more ethanol............sez it at the pump............


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2125756
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
All pump 91 here in Cally is 10% or more ethanol............sez it at the pump............


Yup 99.9% of the stations sell ethanol gas and not all stations have 93, if they do it's loaded with ethanol to get it that high. I never said all 91 is ethanol free.

Straight 91 unleaded gas with no ethanol is over a dollar a gallon more than premium ethanol gas, so that's one way to tell if your buying straight gas at a pump.

99.9% of the stations can't afford to have a pump just for the low volume gas like what we sell...leaded race gas, kerosene, diesel. We took out/stopped selling by the gallon Sunoco 260GT 100 octane unleaded ethanol gas and put in 91 octane straight unleaded gas with no ethanol. WE now sell like 5 times more 91 straight unleaded gas with no ethanol than we did 100 octane unleaded with ethanol. We already had the pump and tank for race gas. We still sell sunoco 260gt, just in drums and 5 gallon cans now.

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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Challenger 1] #2125757
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That`s why I but VP-101 at the pump............


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2125887
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
That`s why I but VP-101 at the pump............


You do know that fuel has ethanol in it...right?

Not really great fuel for cars that don't get driven much IMO.

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I drive my Dart enuff and see no issues yet............


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2125937
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Avgas would be 10X better than ethanol gas. What does VP 101 cost out there per gal.

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Pricy at $8.79 a gallon but run Shell 91 just for puttin or I mix it...........


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Wanna buy some..............lol...........


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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Thumperdart] #2125960
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Re: AV-GAS QUESTIONS................ [Re: Challenger 1] #2125965
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I heard you have a pretty good fuel connection....... wink


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