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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/09/16 12:58 PM
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I just cut the housing in my cut off saw... I know it cuts square .. just have to set it up level... turn it on and walk away EDIT On axle if they need a trim...I chuck them up in the lathe ans SLOW turn them then use my die grinder that I have a jig made up for to hold it and turn it in slowly.. might take 5 minutes for the axle.. then I give them a little bevel on the end On the die grinder I 90% of the time use .040 X 4" cut off wheels...love those wheels 
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/09/16 12:59 PM
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Why. How many axle have you shortened. My car has been running 1.18 60' times for over 15 years on these axles. If you search the Bullet there are a lot of other people who use a cut off wheel on them too. Some manufacturers will gang run axles with very long splines and chop them to length. If you happen to have a set with long splines, I suppose this can be done. But a good axle is made with the proper spline length for the spool being used and the proper taper and spline major and minor diameters. On these you can't just chop them off.
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/09/16 01:03 PM
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[quote=MR_P_BODY]I just cut the housing in my cut off saw... I know it cuts square .. just have to set it up level... turn it on and walk away [/quote} The OP asked about the axles.
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Re: Chassis work prices
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[quote=MR_P_BODY]I just cut the housing in my cut off saw... I know it cuts square .. just have to set it up level... turn it on and walk away [/quote} The OP asked about the axles. And I edited for it
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/10/16 02:54 PM
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all very helpful thanks guys.
How many hours do you guys think this should take?
I was thinking it's about 50 hour job....
I don't know what this guy is trying to pull but his estimate is 100hrs. That's seems like a little much to me
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/10/16 03:08 PM
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You're talking about doing a backhalf, cage, (frameties?), narrow the rear (doesn't matter if it's an inch or a foot, takes the same amount of time), tubs?, sheetmetal? 100 hours, or even a little longer, is about right unless the guy's a hack. Plus material.
Again, is he full time in a well equipped shop or in a shed behind his house with a floorjack and a Home Depot welder?
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/10/16 11:19 PM
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I like the kit you are looking at. The amount of work is more than just the installation of those parts, but the removal of the old parts. Springs and mounts, shocks and mounts. Relocate rear axle brake lines. What about exhaust? Will it be in the way of the ladder bars? I can tell you first hand, chassis work is very time consuming. Without looking at your car, it would be hard to estimate.
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Re: Chassis work prices
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I dont recall.. are you going mild steel or moly.. moly takes a lot longer.. and if he is doing the rear end that doesnt take a lot of time but the parts cost and cutting and trimming the tubing takes time... I have found over the years.. I quote a price in my mind then double it and it comes out damn near dead on... if your not happy with the price or hours... move on down the road
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/11/16 12:09 AM
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100 hours (which is low depending on what all needs to be done) at $50/hr (which is cheap) is 5K before the first part or piece of tubing is bought. Not trying to be mean, it's just the reality of it.
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Re: Chassis work prices
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Ok. So the guy basically wouldn't give me any estimates. Then. I thought they were charging $75/hr but he says 95/hr then he won't budge on the 100hrs thing even if do a simple re-do of my spring relocation. He said a lot of the pricing depends on my attitude. Then he said currently we are at 7hrs. He hasn't even touched the car. Or even assessed the frame until that point. He said it took him 7 hrs calling professional racers and getting there opinions for him to figure out I should go with a competition engineering slide-a-link and qa-1's. He said if I had a better attitude I could be at 2.5 hours. And that's where he lost me. I said. I'm at $700 now? He's like "ya". I'm like take the 700 out of my deposit right me a check for the rest I'll be here tomorrow with the trailer.
Basically. I can weld. And as easy as he was making the job I can do stuff like that. I think I just needed to realize why I do things myself. I can blame myself and re-do it again if I want.
If I'm gonna spend 10,000$ it's not gonna be to install ladder bars on my street car with maybe one day 400hp
I'll keep you guys updated in what happens but I think I'm gonna order a whole new. Cal trac setup with shocks and work on getting the 4000 I need for the alterKation setup I need
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Re: Chassis work prices
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Ok. So the guy basically wouldn't give me any estimates. Then. I thought they were charging $75/hr but he says 95/hr then he won't budge on the 100hrs thing even if do a simple re-do of my spring relocation. He said a lot of the pricing depends on my attitude. Then he said currently we are at 7hrs. He hasn't even touched the car. Or even assessed the frame until that point. He said it took him 7 hrs calling professional racers and getting there opinions for him to figure out I should go with a competition engineering slide-a-link and qa-1's. He said if I had a better attitude I could be at 2.5 hours. And that's where he lost me. I said. I'm at $700 now? He's like "ya". I'm like take the 700 out of my deposit right me a check for the rest I'll be here tomorrow with the trailer.
Basically. I can weld. And as easy as he was making the job I can do stuff like that. I think I just needed to realize why I do things myself. I can blame myself and re-do it again if I want.
If I'm gonna spend 10,000$ it's not gonna be to install ladder bars on my street car with maybe one day 400hp
I'll keep you guys updated in what happens but I think I'm gonna order a whole new. Cal trac setup with shocks and work on getting the 4000 I need for the alterKation setup I need By mine... its a lot cheaper and a ton lighter... that guy is out of his mind
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/12/16 01:34 PM
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Well, that was unfortunate. Don't know who you were talking to, don't want to know. Something you said or did, probably unintentional, set him off. He could have simply said he wasn't interested in your business and sent you away.
Talked to "professionals" for 7 hours and determined that you should use slide-a-links and QA-1s? He probably did you a favor, although I would probably be hesitant to pay him a consultation fee of $700 for that bit of wisdom. Get a receipt.
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Re: Chassis work prices
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06/12/16 02:36 PM
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I don't really want to say who he is..., Thing is he didn't talk to me for 7 hours and he talked a lot before he even looked at the car. Whole time I was thinking if I wanted to spend that much I'd buy mR.p body's car
To be honest mr.p body I would love to have your car but I just don't think I'd do it any justice and I don't want to do that to your car. Your car needs to stay in the track. I'm a street cruiser.
What's up krautrock?! Just trying to move forward. I moved out east a little. More land.
The guy was interested in charging me 10,000$ for 100hrs. That's 2.5 weeks for $10,000. People that make that kind of money sent like this guy they talk more clear, they dress nice, professional. The problem is I should have brought it to a legitimate race shop.
I can fix the car myself no biggie
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