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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: jbc426] #207268
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I had Barry Grant once. Two of them 400 systems, one is still in the trailer. May be the best product on the market, I will never know, I would not run it if they paid me. there service to me on a scale of 1 to 10 is a minus10. Magna fuel, no problems. my two cents!

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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: rickstershemi] #207269
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I hear Barry Grant getting a bad rap all the time, but I have had zero problems with my BG400 setup and when calling BG for assistance in setting up my fuel system got nothing but great service....?????

Now I'm not pushing BG, I know there are several very good systems out there....Aeromotive, Magnafuel....

Rickster




Magnafuel or BG. I agree with Rickster that most of the problems with BG are made up horse pucky. I've used at least 5 of his pumps without EVER having a problem. NOTHING lasts forever. BG pioneered the fuel systems that you commonly see today with first the 300 then the 400. Most of the others are copies of the 400. I had one Aeromotive and I ended up throwing it away after experiencing numerous problems-even after sending it back for repair.

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: BobR] #207270
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Thanks for all the response. I will be ordering this: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Unless someone can tell me where I can get a better deal.

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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: PolyDart] #207271
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run a BG 280 pump and no issues i have a bypass reg back to the tank for street driving

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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: daron] #207272
01/30/09 03:28 PM
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Here is my issue with BG. I have used his products with some luck. They always want to develop leaks around that shaft seal. They won't sell replacement parts, they make you send it back for rebuild, charge alot, and take there sweet lil time with it. They have been making an effort lately to curb their customer service, but i won't go back. There is no reason to when people sell better products for the same money. What about BG's stuff sets them above the others? In my opinion nothing, and i have never had a leak or failure with any of the other companies i have mentioned.


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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: HemiDart68] #207273
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: 11secdart] #207274
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I am one of those that give BG a bad rap. I have had nothing but trouble, with every BG pump I have ever owned. Every one, I repeat, every one, I have ever had any dealings with, leaked fuel. They won't sell you the part to fix it and if you send it in, they might keep it 3 months. I have lost count of the leaking BG pumps, that I have replaced with Magna-Fuel pumps. To my knowledge, not one of those has ever developed a leak. My own Magna-Fuel 500 had been sitting up for 5 years. Last year, when the BG started leaking on the drag radial car, we put the Magna-Fuel on it. Still on there. Works fine and does NOT leak.

Monte

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: Monte_Smith] #207275
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I have nothing but good things to say about my Aeromotive A2000 pump. I ran a Paxton which is the same thing for years on the street and racing as they were a contingency sponsor. I bought an Aeromotive after Paxton quit paying and Aeromotive did. Worked great. After several years it finally started leaking. I bought a new one and sent the old one back. They fixed it for free so I have a spare I will probably never need.

Leon


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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: Monte_Smith] #207276
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I am one of those that give BG a bad rap. I have had nothing but trouble, with every BG pump I have ever owned. Every one, I repeat, every one, I have ever had any dealings with, leaked fuel. They won't sell you the part to fix it and if you send it in, they might keep it 3 months. I have lost count of the leaking BG pumps, that I have replaced with Magna-Fuel pumps. To my knowledge, not one of those has ever developed a leak. My own Magna-Fuel 500 had been sitting up for 5 years. Last year, when the BG started leaking on the drag radial car, we put the Magna-Fuel on it. Still on there. Works fine and does NOT leak.

Monte




You've got cred with me Monte. I've never had a problem but the fact that you have could send me elsewhere. -Bob

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: Leon441] #207277
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I have nothing but good things to say about my Aeromotive A2000 pump. I ran a Paxton which is the same thing for years on the street and racing as they were a contingency sponsor. I bought an Aeromotive after Paxton quit paying and Aeromotive did. Worked great. After several years it finally started leaking. I bought a new one and sent the old one back. They fixed it for free so I have a spare I will probably never need.

Leon




My aeromotive A1000 didn't leak but it wouldn't pump enough pressure to get my FI car off an idle.

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: BobR] #207278
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I am one of those that give BG a bad rap. I have had nothing but trouble, with every BG pump I have ever owned. Every one, I repeat, every one, I have ever had any dealings with, leaked fuel. They won't sell you the part to fix it and if you send it in, they might keep it 3 months. I have lost count of the leaking BG pumps, that I have replaced with Magna-Fuel pumps. To my knowledge, not one of those has ever developed a leak. My own Magna-Fuel 500 had been sitting up for 5 years. Last year, when the BG started leaking on the drag radial car, we put the Magna-Fuel on it. Still on there. Works fine and does NOT leak.

Monte




You've got cred with me Monte. I've never had a problem but the fact that you have could send me elsewhere. -Bob




I have only had two BG 400's, the original that came in the roadster that sat for four or five years, it didn't leak but it was eat'n up from the owner not draining the alky out when it was stored and wouldn't hold pressure. The second one has worked flawlessly to date after a year. I run the 400-2 which has titanium components...

Rickster

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: PolyDart] #207279
01/31/09 10:56 AM
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I really like my Precision Engineering pump and Regulator. I do run alcohol so there is some precautions you have to take if system is down over winter or any long period of time. Also I tend to replace O rings etc every so often. The luxury of alcohol!

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: dare_dude] #207280
01/31/09 03:26 PM
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There is a thread on this very subject right now on YB. The list of people who have had problems with BG stuff is huge. Now I am not saying that Product Engineering and Magna-Fuel do not ever have issues, but you very seldom here about it, where as BG complaints are VERY frequent. That, coupled with my own experiences, would lead me to NEVER own another BG product again, nor want to have any dealings with them.

At one time, I had two BG-400s on my car, one for the spray and one for the motor, along with a BG 4 port reg for the carb and a couple two port regs for the nitrous systems. I had the pumps repaired or replaced, more times than I could count. Luckily at the time, they had a support rig at the races and they generally just swapped units with me, so I was not out a lot of money in shipping and repair costs. The final straw was at a Bristol KOS race. We hurt the motor for no apparent reason. After checking everything over, one time you turned the pump on, it had 25psi, the next time it had 10psi. Everytime you cycled the switch, the pressure was different. After that, I GAVE AWAY all the BG stuff. Thousands of dollars worth of parts. No way would I have sold that junk to anybody. So I gave it away with a disclaimer that "it should go in the trash". Went to Magna-Fuel and never looked back. That was about 12 years ago and have never had an issue with any Magna-Fuel product I have owned, sold to someone else, or had any dealings with period.

That is my little story and experience with BG products.

Monte

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: Monte_Smith] #207281
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There is a thread on this very subject right now on YB. The list of people who have had problems with BG stuff is huge. Now I am not saying that Product Engineering and Magna-Fuel do not ever have issues, but you very seldom here about it, where as BG complaints are VERY frequent. That, coupled with my own experiences, would lead me to NEVER own another BG product again, nor want to have any dealings with them.

At one time, I had two BG-400s on my car, one for the spray and one for the motor, along with a BG 4 port reg for the carb and a couple two port regs for the nitrous systems. I had the pumps repaired or replaced, more times than I could count. Luckily at the time, they had a support rig at the races and they generally just swapped units with me, so I was not out a lot of money in shipping and repair costs. The final straw was at a Bristol KOS race. We hurt the motor for no apparent reason. After checking everything over, one time you turned the pump on, it had 25psi, the next time it had 10psi. Everytime you cycled the switch, the pressure was different. After that, I GAVE AWAY all the BG stuff. Thousands of dollars worth of parts. No way would I have sold that junk to anybody. So I gave it away with a disclaimer that "it should go in the trash". Went to Magna-Fuel and never looked back. That was about 12 years ago and have never had an issue with any Magna-Fuel product I have owned, sold to someone else, or had any dealings with period.

That is my little story and experience with BG products.

Monte




I saw the Yellowbullet thread. I also saw BG's reply. I don't know whether to feel sorry for him or to think he's an azz.

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: BobR] #207282
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: PolyDart] #207283
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Thanks for all the response. I will be ordering this Unless someone can tell me where I can get a better deal.





personally i'd put a mallory comp 250 on it, buy only the exact additional components you need and pocket the other $400....but that's just me

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: jamesc] #207284
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Thanks for all the response. I will be ordering this: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Unless someone can tell me where I can get a better deal.





personally i'd put a mallory comp 250 on it, buy only the exact additional components you need and pocket the other $400 but that's just me





Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: Quicktree] #207285
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Thanks for all the response. I will be ordering this: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Unless someone can tell me where I can get a better deal.





personally i'd put a mallory comp 250 on it, buy only the exact additional components you need and pocket the other $400 but that's just me









That's the route I'm taking on mine.

Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant [Re: PolyDart] #207286
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try magna fuel great product smart people to deal with same pump on my car for 4 years no problem run one 500 to run both carbs and nit. never had a problem with it running lean , their in colorado springs

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