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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: PolyDart]
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Aeromotive. Great to deal with and awesome products. I have their little street rod pump w/ a simple -8 line dead head system feeding my hemi running mid 9s w/ no trouble.  I've had too many friends have problems w/ BG fuel pumps. CHIP
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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01/28/09 10:43 PM
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Aeromotive. Great to deal with and awesome products. I have their little street rod pump w/ a simple -8 line dead head system feeding my hemi running mid 9s w/ no trouble.
I've had too many friends have problems w/ BG fuel pumps. CHIP
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: PolyDart]
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01/28/09 10:57 PM
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Look on E-bay and see which is for sale in quantiy and DONT buy it, they are for sale for a reason. The one you will see there is Barry Grant... JMO I run a pair of Holley blacks(150s), might be able to run 1 but I run the pair to make sure with a return 
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/29/09 03:54 AM
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Product Engineering 8 years no problems.
According to each of their manufacturers' instructions, Product Engineering has the only pumps that don't have to be mounted at or below the bottom of the tank, because of overheating problems if their not gravity primed.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/29/09 04:06 AM
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Product Engineering 8 years no problems.
According to each of their manufacturers' instructions, Product Engineering has the only pumps that don't have to be mounted at or below the bottom of the tank, because of overheating problems if their not gravity primed.
I believe magnafuel is the same way (i believe they were both designed by the same guy)
another good but pricier choice is WELDON awesome customer service and 100% USA MADE
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/29/09 08:10 AM
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Aeromotive, Magnafuel, product engineering, all good. If you want the best Weldon.  As far as a B grant,   If you street drive make sure either the pump has a bypass back to the tank, or i perfer running a bypass style regulator all the way back to the tank.
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/29/09 09:17 AM
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Barry Grant
I hear Barry Grant getting a bad rap all the time, but I have had zero problems with my BG400 setup and when calling BG for assistance in setting up my fuel system got nothing but great service....?????
Now I'm not pushing BG, I know there are several very good systems out there....Aeromotive, Magnafuel....
Rickster
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/29/09 09:33 AM
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Barry Grant
I hear Barry Grant getting a bad rap all the time, but I have had zero problems with my BG400 setup and when calling BG for assistance in setting up my fuel system got nothing but great service....?????
Now I'm not pushing BG, I know there are several very good systems out there....Aeromotive, Magnafuel....
Rickster
i did have a prob with one BG 400 pump but BG too care of it with no hassle.been runnin a BG 400 for the last 7 years(same one)
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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01/29/09 09:42 AM
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Product Engineering 8 years no problems.
According to each of their manufacturers' instructions, Product Engineering has the only pumps that don't have to be mounted at or below the bottom of the tank, because of overheating problems if their not gravity primed.
I believe magnafuel is the same way (i believe they were both designed by the same guy)
another good but pricier choice is WELDON awesome customer service and 100% USA MADE
I chose Performance Engineerring for that reason, as well as his design is simply heavy duty. I've read a lot of good things about Magnafuel, but they aren't designed by Performance Engineering( a one man operation down in SoCal).
The primary thing is building a well-designed system using the right sized pump, bypasses, proper line size, adequate power delivery, and a good fuel tank/cell.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: rickstershemi]
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01/29/09 09:07 PM
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Barry Grant
I hear Barry Grant getting a bad rap all the time, but I have had zero problems with my BG400 setup and when calling BG for assistance in setting up my fuel system got nothing but great service....?????
Now I'm not pushing BG, I know there are several very good systems out there....Aeromotive, Magnafuel....
Rickster
Magnafuel or BG. I agree with Rickster that most of the problems with BG are made up horse pucky. I've used at least 5 of his pumps without EVER having a problem. NOTHING lasts forever. BG pioneered the fuel systems that you commonly see today with first the 300 then the 400. Most of the others are copies of the 400. I had one Aeromotive and I ended up throwing it away after experiencing numerous problems-even after sending it back for repair.
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/30/09 03:28 PM
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Here is my issue with BG. I have used his products with some luck. They always want to develop leaks around that shaft seal. They won't sell replacement parts, they make you send it back for rebuild, charge alot, and take there sweet lil time with it. They have been making an effort lately to curb their customer service, but i won't go back. There is no reason to when people sell better products for the same money. What about BG's stuff sets them above the others? In my opinion nothing, and i have never had a leak or failure with any of the other companies i have mentioned.
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: HemiDart68]
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01/30/09 04:57 PM
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Product Engineering with bypass to cell, no problems
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: 11secdart]
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01/30/09 07:29 PM
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I am one of those that give BG a bad rap. I have had nothing but trouble, with every BG pump I have ever owned. Every one, I repeat, every one, I have ever had any dealings with, leaked fuel. They won't sell you the part to fix it and if you send it in, they might keep it 3 months. I have lost count of the leaking BG pumps, that I have replaced with Magna-Fuel pumps. To my knowledge, not one of those has ever developed a leak. My own Magna-Fuel 500 had been sitting up for 5 years. Last year, when the BG started leaking on the drag radial car, we put the Magna-Fuel on it. Still on there. Works fine and does NOT leak.
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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01/30/09 09:16 PM
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I have nothing but good things to say about my Aeromotive A2000 pump. I ran a Paxton which is the same thing for years on the street and racing as they were a contingency sponsor. I bought an Aeromotive after Paxton quit paying and Aeromotive did. Worked great. After several years it finally started leaking. I bought a new one and sent the old one back. They fixed it for free so I have a spare I will probably never need.
Leon
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/31/09 01:06 AM
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I am one of those that give BG a bad rap. I have had nothing but trouble, with every BG pump I have ever owned. Every one, I repeat, every one, I have ever had any dealings with, leaked fuel. They won't sell you the part to fix it and if you send it in, they might keep it 3 months. I have lost count of the leaking BG pumps, that I have replaced with Magna-Fuel pumps. To my knowledge, not one of those has ever developed a leak. My own Magna-Fuel 500 had been sitting up for 5 years. Last year, when the BG started leaking on the drag radial car, we put the Magna-Fuel on it. Still on there. Works fine and does NOT leak.
Monte
You've got cred with me Monte. I've never had a problem but the fact that you have could send me elsewhere. -Bob
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: Leon441]
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I have nothing but good things to say about my Aeromotive A2000 pump. I ran a Paxton which is the same thing for years on the street and racing as they were a contingency sponsor. I bought an Aeromotive after Paxton quit paying and Aeromotive did. Worked great. After several years it finally started leaking. I bought a new one and sent the old one back. They fixed it for free so I have a spare I will probably never need.
Leon
My aeromotive A1000 didn't leak but it wouldn't pump enough pressure to get my FI car off an idle.
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: BobR]
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I am one of those that give BG a bad rap. I have had nothing but trouble, with every BG pump I have ever owned. Every one, I repeat, every one, I have ever had any dealings with, leaked fuel. They won't sell you the part to fix it and if you send it in, they might keep it 3 months. I have lost count of the leaking BG pumps, that I have replaced with Magna-Fuel pumps. To my knowledge, not one of those has ever developed a leak. My own Magna-Fuel 500 had been sitting up for 5 years. Last year, when the BG started leaking on the drag radial car, we put the Magna-Fuel on it. Still on there. Works fine and does NOT leak.
Monte
You've got cred with me Monte. I've never had a problem but the fact that you have could send me elsewhere. -Bob
I have only had two BG 400's, the original that came in the roadster that sat for four or five years, it didn't leak but it was eat'n up from the owner not draining the alky out when it was stored and wouldn't hold pressure. The second one has worked flawlessly to date after a year. I run the 400-2 which has titanium components... 
Rickster
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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There is a thread on this very subject right now on YB. The list of people who have had problems with BG stuff is huge. Now I am not saying that Product Engineering and Magna-Fuel do not ever have issues, but you very seldom here about it, where as BG complaints are VERY frequent. That, coupled with my own experiences, would lead me to NEVER own another BG product again, nor want to have any dealings with them.
At one time, I had two BG-400s on my car, one for the spray and one for the motor, along with a BG 4 port reg for the carb and a couple two port regs for the nitrous systems. I had the pumps repaired or replaced, more times than I could count. Luckily at the time, they had a support rig at the races and they generally just swapped units with me, so I was not out a lot of money in shipping and repair costs. The final straw was at a Bristol KOS race. We hurt the motor for no apparent reason. After checking everything over, one time you turned the pump on, it had 25psi, the next time it had 10psi. Everytime you cycled the switch, the pressure was different. After that, I GAVE AWAY all the BG stuff. Thousands of dollars worth of parts. No way would I have sold that junk to anybody. So I gave it away with a disclaimer that "it should go in the trash". Went to Magna-Fuel and never looked back. That was about 12 years ago and have never had an issue with any Magna-Fuel product I have owned, sold to someone else, or had any dealings with period.
That is my little story and experience with BG products.
Monte
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/31/09 05:29 PM
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There is a thread on this very subject right now on YB. The list of people who have had problems with BG stuff is huge. Now I am not saying that Product Engineering and Magna-Fuel do not ever have issues, but you very seldom here about it, where as BG complaints are VERY frequent. That, coupled with my own experiences, would lead me to NEVER own another BG product again, nor want to have any dealings with them.
At one time, I had two BG-400s on my car, one for the spray and one for the motor, along with a BG 4 port reg for the carb and a couple two port regs for the nitrous systems. I had the pumps repaired or replaced, more times than I could count. Luckily at the time, they had a support rig at the races and they generally just swapped units with me, so I was not out a lot of money in shipping and repair costs. The final straw was at a Bristol KOS race. We hurt the motor for no apparent reason. After checking everything over, one time you turned the pump on, it had 25psi, the next time it had 10psi. Everytime you cycled the switch, the pressure was different. After that, I GAVE AWAY all the BG stuff. Thousands of dollars worth of parts. No way would I have sold that junk to anybody. So I gave it away with a disclaimer that "it should go in the trash". Went to Magna-Fuel and never looked back. That was about 12 years ago and have never had an issue with any Magna-Fuel product I have owned, sold to someone else, or had any dealings with period.
That is my little story and experience with BG products.
Monte
I saw the Yellowbullet thread. I also saw BG's reply. I don't know whether to feel sorry for him or to think he's an azz.
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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got a link to the thread on the bullet
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
[Re: PolyDart]
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Thanks for all the response. I will be ordering this Unless someone can tell me where I can get a better deal.
personally i'd put a mallory comp 250 on it, buy only the exact additional components you need and pocket the other $400....but that's just me
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Re: Time for a fuel system Aeromotive vs Barry Grant
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Thanks for all the response. I will be ordering this: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku Unless someone can tell me where I can get a better deal.
personally i'd put a mallory comp 250 on it, buy only the exact additional components you need and pocket the other $400 but that's just me
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