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Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle #203329 01/24/09 07:46 PM 01/24/09 07:46 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio V viperakron OP super stock
viperakron OP super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	I think the new Challenger is 115mm bolt circle. The old one works out to around 114.3mm??? Is it close enough to work? Anyone try this.

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: viperakron] #203330 01/24/09 10:12 PM 01/24/09 10:12 PM
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viperakron OP super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	???

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: viperakron] #203331 01/24/09 11:41 PM 01/24/09 11:41 PM
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Challenger_Nut enthusiast C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 260 WV.	Yes 114.3 and 4.5 are the same. Don't know what kind of clearance issues you would have with them. Get the offset numbers for them and go from there. I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger.

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: Challenger_Nut] #203332 01/25/09 09:49 AM 01/25/09 09:49 AM
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viperakron OP super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	Anybody actually bolted the new wheel on an old Mopar? 114.3 to 115 is close but will it fit?

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: viperakron] #203333 01/25/09 10:06 AM 01/25/09 10:06 AM
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36PLYM enthusiast 3 Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 251 Lithonia, Ga	I have the new 17 inch Magnum wheels on a rearend from a 68 Coronet that is on my 36 Plymouth. No problems. 4971733-IMG_3844.JPG (269 downloads) 36 Plymouth Coupe 318 w/360 heads 518 trans 8 3/4 rear Ga. Tech BCE'78

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: 36PLYM] #203334 01/25/09 11:00 AM 01/25/09 11:00 AM
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gch master Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,138 Central NC	My choice is the base v6 challenger's 17" aluminum wheels.I am going to try and pick up a take off set at the dealer where someone has upgraded.They appear to be a little narrower so they may not have as much offset like most of the newer cars.

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: Challenger_Nut] #203335 01/25/09 11:24 AM 01/25/09 11:24 AM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger. I don't like them on anything.

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: MoparforLife] #203336 01/25/09 12:05 PM 01/25/09 12:05 PM
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DoctorDiff master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	Smaller diameter wheels won't fit many new cars. Big rotors require big wheels. Contact info

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: DoctorDiff] #203337 01/25/09 12:27 PM 01/25/09 12:27 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: Smaller diameter wheels won't fit many new cars. Big rotors require big wheels. I realize that but then and rubber band tires are still fugly. Espeicially when tried/used on an older car that they don't belong on.

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: MoparforLife] #203338 01/25/09 12:36 PM 01/25/09 12:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt.	I have 07 chgarger wheels on my 68 cuda. They have lots of back spaceing, I have an early B-body rear in my car and they fit perfect on the rear. On the front I have a 75 duster disc set up, they would not sit flush against the hub area. I had to machine the front rotors hub down to fit inside the wheels hub area and even after that I had to run a 7/32s spacer. I went through all that effort to make them fit like that because I wanted them hub centered and because they look great, help cornering, I got them cheap. I could not get a set of 15 inch ralleys for that cheap. 4972023-DSC01760.JPG (311 downloads) I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: HotRodDave] #203339 01/25/09 12:40 PM 01/25/09 12:40 PM
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HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt.	Oh yeah, I have to install the front grease cap AFTER I install the front wheel. No center cap. Steel wheels would have bolted on the front and rear. Since it is a slightly different bolt pattern it is very important to make sure you get them hub centered. I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: MoparforLife] #203340 01/25/09 01:05 PM 01/25/09 01:05 PM
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DoctorDiff master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	People have called my pickups "fugly" since the late 1980s when I started running 19.5" truck wheels. Tire height combined with a short side wall and F load rating helps the gear ratio and provides a stable ride, especially when loaded. Likewise, a balanced package of big brakes, big wheels and stiff sidewalls enhances a car's handling and braking. I'm glad more vehicles come standard with this configuration. Contact info

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: MoparforLife] #203341 01/25/09 01:05 PM 01/25/09 01:05 PM
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holtzdog55 mopar Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 445 Fairfield, Ohio	Quote: Quote: I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger. I don't like them on anything. Finally Done....BEERS!!!

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: holtzdog55] #203342 01/25/09 07:58 PM 01/25/09 07:58 PM
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viperakron OP super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger. I don't like them on anything. Better get used to it. Pro Touromg cars are the hot rods of the future. There is a fine balance to the sidewall height as it relates to the stance of the car. 17s and 18s can make an old muscle car look like it's in the next generation. It's all personal preference, thats what make the world go round.

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: viperakron] #203343 01/25/09 08:03 PM 01/25/09 08:03 PM
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RangerDan440 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE	I love to get a set of the 18X8 steelies the Charger police cars come with 68 Valiant 408 69 Charger 318 69 Cougar 351W 70 Torino GT 351C 71 Country Squire 351W 71 Road Runner 440+6 71 Satellite sedan 318 73 Duster 318 73 Challenger 383 77 Grand Prix 455 83 Malibu 9C1 383 84 Delta 88 403 87 Grand National 96 Ram 360 09 Crown Vic 10 Challenger R/T M6 15 Challenger Hellcat M6

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: RangerDan440] #203344 01/25/09 08:10 PM 01/25/09 08:10 PM
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OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	Quote: I love to get a set of the 18X8 steelies the Charger police cars come with Didn't Mopork have some of them ?

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: HotRodDave] #203345 01/27/09 12:07 AM 01/27/09 12:07 AM
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fyve0 member F Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 6 california	what dia did you turn the hubs to?hub centric? dont the wheel studs bring it into center?newbie to mopars any suggestions i am trying to put them on my 70 rr thanx Mike

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: fyve0] #203346 01/27/09 12:54 AM 01/27/09 12:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt. H HotRodDave I Live Here
HotRodDave I Live Here H Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,419 Kalispell Mt.	The hub was too long, I machined it shorter and put a 45 degree bevel on the end so it would fit inside the wheel. Normaly wheels are centered on the hub not the studs. The bolt pattern on old mopars is 5 lugs on a 4.5 inch circle or about .7 MM smaller than the new mopar pattern witch if I recall corectly is 115MM so they can be slightly off center if one lug was tightened first or slightly more or less than the others, that is why it is important to run a thin enough spacer to keep the hub in the centering ring of the wheels big center hole. I have no vibration now at 130mph. I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!

Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle [Re: HotRodDave] #203347 01/28/09 10:31 AM 01/28/09 10:31 AM
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marklock I tried too hard for a custom title M Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 560 MI	Quote: I have 07 chgarger wheels on my 68 cuda. They have lots of back spaceing, I have an early B-body rear in my car and they fit perfect on the rear. On the front I have a 75 duster disc set up, they would not sit flush against the hub area. I had to machine the front rotors hub down to fit inside the wheels hub area and even after that I had to run a 7/32s spacer. I went through all that effort to make them fit like that because I wanted them hub centered and because they look great, help cornering, I got them cheap. I could not get a set of 15 inch ralleys for that cheap. Looks good to me. What size tires you got ?

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