Posted By: viperakron
Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/24/09 11:46 PM
I think the new Challenger is 115mm bolt circle. The old one works out to around 114.3mm??? Is it close enough to work? Anyone try this.
Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle
Posted By: viperakron
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 02:12 AM
???
Posted By: Challenger_Nut
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 03:41 AM
Yes 114.3 and 4.5 are the same. Don't know what kind of clearance issues you would have with them. Get the offset numbers for them and go from there. I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger.
Posted By: viperakron
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 01:49 PM
Anybody actually bolted the new wheel on an old Mopar? 114.3 to 115 is close but will it fit?
Posted By: 36PLYM
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 02:06 PM
I have the new 17 inch Magnum wheels on a rearend from a 68 Coronet that is on my 36 Plymouth. No problems.
Posted By: gch
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 03:00 PM
My choice is the base v6 challenger's 17" aluminum wheels.I am going to try and pick up a take off set at the dealer where someone has upgraded.They appear to be a little narrower so they may not have as much offset like most of the newer cars.
Posted By: MoparforLife
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 03:24 PM
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I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger.
I don't like them on anything.
Posted By: DoctorDiff
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 04:05 PM
Smaller diameter wheels won't fit many new cars. Big rotors require big wheels.
Posted By: MoparforLife
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 04:27 PM
Quote:I realize that but then and rubber band tires are still fugly. Espeicially when tried/used on an older car that they don't belong on.
Smaller diameter wheels won't fit many new cars. Big rotors require big wheels.
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 04:36 PM
I have 07 chgarger wheels on my 68 cuda. They have lots of back spaceing, I have an early B-body rear in my car and they fit perfect on the rear.
On the front I have a 75 duster disc set up, they would not sit flush against the hub area. I had to machine the front rotors hub down to fit inside the wheels hub area and even after that I had to run a 7/32s spacer. I went through all that effort to make them fit like that because I wanted them hub centered and because they look great, help cornering, I got them cheap. I could not get a set of 15 inch ralleys for that cheap.
On the front I have a 75 duster disc set up, they would not sit flush against the hub area. I had to machine the front rotors hub down to fit inside the wheels hub area and even after that I had to run a 7/32s spacer. I went through all that effort to make them fit like that because I wanted them hub centered and because they look great, help cornering, I got them cheap. I could not get a set of 15 inch ralleys for that cheap.
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 04:40 PM
Oh yeah, I have to install the front grease cap AFTER I install the front wheel. No center cap.
Steel wheels would have bolted on the front and rear.
Since it is a slightly different bolt pattern it is very important to make sure you get them hub centered.
Steel wheels would have bolted on the front and rear.
Since it is a slightly different bolt pattern it is very important to make sure you get them hub centered.
Posted By: DoctorDiff
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 05:05 PM
People have called my pickups "fugly" since the late 1980s when I started running 19.5" truck wheels. Tire height combined with a short side wall and F load rating helps the gear ratio and provides a stable ride, especially when loaded.
Likewise, a balanced package of big brakes, big wheels and stiff sidewalls enhances a car's handling and braking.
I'm glad more vehicles come standard with this configuration.
Likewise, a balanced package of big brakes, big wheels and stiff sidewalls enhances a car's handling and braking.
I'm glad more vehicles come standard with this configuration.
Posted By: holtzdog55
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 05:05 PM
Quote:Quote:
I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger.
I don't like them on anything.
Posted By: viperakron
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/25/09 11:58 PM
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I pesonally do not like 20 inchers on the the Classic Challenger.
I don't like them on anything.
Better get used to it. Pro Touromg cars are the hot rods of the future. There is a fine balance to the sidewall height as it relates to the stance of the car. 17s and 18s can make an old muscle car look like it's in the next generation. It's all personal preference, thats what make the world go round.
Posted By: RangerDan440
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/26/09 12:03 AM
I love to get a set of the 18X8 steelies the Charger police cars come with
Posted By: OzHemi
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/26/09 12:10 AM
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I love to get a set of the 18X8 steelies the Charger police cars come with
Didn't Mopork have some of them ?
Posted By: fyve0
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/27/09 04:07 AM
what dia did you turn the hubs to?hub centric? dont the wheel studs bring it into center?newbie to mopars any suggestions i am trying to put them on my 70 rr thanx Mike
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/27/09 04:54 AM
The hub was too long, I machined it shorter and put a 45 degree bevel on the end so it would fit inside the wheel.
Normaly wheels are centered on the hub not the studs. The bolt pattern on old mopars is 5 lugs on a 4.5 inch circle or about .7 MM smaller than the new mopar pattern witch if I recall corectly is 115MM so they can be slightly off center if one lug was tightened first or slightly more or less than the others, that is why it is important to run a thin enough spacer to keep the hub in the centering ring of the wheels big center hole. I have no vibration now at 130mph.
Normaly wheels are centered on the hub not the studs. The bolt pattern on old mopars is 5 lugs on a 4.5 inch circle or about .7 MM smaller than the new mopar pattern witch if I recall corectly is 115MM so they can be slightly off center if one lug was tightened first or slightly more or less than the others, that is why it is important to run a thin enough spacer to keep the hub in the centering ring of the wheels big center hole. I have no vibration now at 130mph.
Posted By: marklock
Re: Will new Challenger wheels fit old 4.5 bolt circle - 01/28/09 02:31 PM
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I have 07 chgarger wheels on my 68 cuda. They have lots of back spaceing, I have an early B-body rear in my car and they fit perfect on the rear.
On the front I have a 75 duster disc set up, they would not sit flush against the hub area. I had to machine the front rotors hub down to fit inside the wheels hub area and even after that I had to run a 7/32s spacer. I went through all that effort to make them fit like that because I wanted them hub centered and because they look great, help cornering, I got them cheap. I could not get a set of 15 inch ralleys for that cheap.
Looks good to me. What size tires you got ?