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Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? #200728
01/22/09 09:01 AM
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Any thoughts / opinions on this?

In an ongoing effort to assist in curtailing escalating costs associated with the operation of professional nitromethane category vehicles (Top Fuel and Funny Car), NHRA has implemented the following testing limitations for the 2009 NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series season.

Unlimited testing for Top Fuel and Funny Car teams will be permitted until the 2009 season opener at Auto Club Raceway at Pomona, Feb. 5, 2009. At that point, and during the 2009 NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series season (Feb 5 to Nov 15), professional nitromethane teams will be limited to a maximum of four (4) one-day test sessions. This policy applies to both the team and driver.

NHRA's definition of testing includes, but is not limited to, any run or attempted run conducted at any track whatsoever, whether or not it is an NHRA track or NHRA-sanctioned track. Exhibitions, match racing, licensing attempts, and the like, are considered testing and will be subject to this testing policy. For example, participating at a two-day match race will be defined as two testing session days. Regardless of the number of runs attempted per day, each day will be defined as one testing day.

A team in violation of this testing policy will forfeit all NHRA Full Throttle points earned at the next NHRA National event at which the team participates. Any team demonstrating a flagrant disregard or continual violation of the testing policy may be subject to additional punitive action as deemed appropriate by NHRA in its sole and absolute discretion.

The policy was developed after consultation with several professional nitromethane teams on a fair and equitable way to limit testing in the 2009 season. NHRA's decisions enforcing the policy will be final and not appealable.


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: B Dartman] #200729
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my thought, who cares???

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: MegaDart] #200730
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Guess they dont car about the independent teams that depend on match race monies to survive.Two weekends to match race.NHRA=IDIOTS

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: B Dartman] #200731
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It goes against what made America great. The NHRA has become a too-large, too all-powerful, too over-regulating of a governing body instead of a light handed governing body that guides and promotes fair competition and innovation. It stiffles competition, over-regulates and conditions people from even trying to compete, takes away their individual rights and uses the media to make most people think it's the greatest thing since JC; but hang on to your wallets cuz Change has come to America too, better start getting used to it.


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: jbc426] #200732
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one would have to guess they did that to level the playing field. IMO it hurts the less experienced teams the most and could hamper any potential new competition from gaining needed testing info. that only hurts the sport overall.

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: B Dartman] #200733
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Any thoughts / opinions on this?

In an ongoing effort to assist in curtailing escalating costs associated with the operation of professional nitromethane category vehicles (Top Fuel and Funny Car), NHRA has implemented the following testing limitations for the 2009 NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series season.

Unlimited testing for Top Fuel and Funny Car teams will be permitted until the 2009 season opener at Auto Club Raceway at Pomona, Feb. 5, 2009. At that point, and during the 2009 NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series season (Feb 5 to Nov 15), professional nitromethane teams will be limited to a maximum of four (4) one-day test sessions. This policy applies to both the team and driver.

NHRA's definition of testing includes, but is not limited to, any run or attempted run conducted at any track whatsoever, whether or not it is an NHRA track or NHRA-sanctioned track. Exhibitions, match racing, licensing attempts, and the like, are considered testing and will be subject to this testing policy. For example, participating at a two-day match race will be defined as two testing session days. Regardless of the number of runs attempted per day, each day will be defined as one testing day.

A team in violation of this testing policy will forfeit all NHRA Full Throttle points earned at the next NHRA National event at which the team participates. Any team demonstrating a flagrant disregard or continual violation of the testing policy may be subject to additional punitive action as deemed appropriate by NHRA in its sole and absolute discretion.

The policy was developed after consultation with several professional nitromethane teams on a fair and equitable way to limit testing in the 2009 season. NHRA's decisions enforcing the policy will be final and not appealable.




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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? #200734
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The days of 25 fuel cars showing up to qualify for a 16 car field are over. If i recall there was even a race at the end of the season were 15 cars showed up. With the economy and sponsership money getting tighter, i think it is in NHRA's best interest to give the little guys a little bit of a better shot at things.


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? #200735
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one would have to guess they did that to level the playing field. IMO it hurts the less experienced teams the most and could hamper any potential new competition from gaining needed testing info. that only hurts the sport overall.






Yet another example of NHRA's short sightedness.......


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: B Dartman] #200736
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Hello,

I guess safety improvements will have to wait till after the season is over.

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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: mopardamo] #200737
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Geez.
Guess if i come into boat loads of cash, i cant run my stuff cuz somebody says no.
Let em eat quiche.
NNHRa getting more stupid by the day.
Lets squish even more new potential attendees.

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: theclutcher] #200738
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Nascar limits teams to how many times they can test and on which tracks they can test on.

I can rationalize the thoughts behind limiting testing, (not let the mega funded teams test thier cars into the ground, while a lesser funded team will "test" while they are trying to qualify for a race).

I wonder though, its 4 days per team or driver, so force has 4 cars, for 16 days allowed (4 for each car? or is it 4 days total for all 4 cars? Its shared information in that team...


What I see through the haze is this... NOW if I want to see a top fueler, or funny car, I HAVE to go to an NHRA National event, because the booked in night of fire type races and a team making 3 passes in one day for XX amount of dollars just died. and the days of people like Del Worsham sliding over to an IHRA race are done, 3 days at an IHRA race and 3 testing days gone for NHRA purposes. I bet theyd rather test and get more runs in.
I think NHRA just put a little hurt on IHRA racers and stopped the likes of people like Bruce Litton from coming to NHRA without being fined before he even makes a run down the track. Litton chases IHRA points,lets hypothetically say he races 5 races in IHRA, shows up at the US Nationals, they say 5 races, at 3 days each, 15 testing days, youre allowed 4, youre 11 over what we allow, youre fined $XXXXX, thats a pretty hefty entry fee.

NHRA tracks will speak up, IHRA tracks will speak up, PRO will speak up, I bet there will be an ammendment on this down the road.

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: plasticfantastic] #200739
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I was thinking of the same thing with the match races. I know the Forces, Wilkerson & Kalitta's do certain match races like the Night of Fire, so now that will hurt those events because they won't have the draw of the big name nitro drivers coming. Also curiuos how it works for those guys like Capps & Worsham who run Nostalgia Funny Car.


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: AFDRAGRACER] #200740
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I was thinking of the same thing with the match races. I know the Forces, Wilkerson & Kalitta's do certain match races like the Night of Fire, so now that will hurt those events because they won't have the draw of the big name nitro drivers coming. Also curiuos how it works for those guys like Capps & Worsham who run Nostalgia Funny Car.




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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: Chad Bittle] #200741
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Just another way NHRA is trying to copy NASCRAP.... A shame... First it was the race to the chase now this...


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: Boosted] #200742
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Maybe they could factor it like , for example, the top 5 points teams from the previous year , get X amount of test days , the 6 thru 10 points teams get XX amount of tests , etc...


kinda like the crappy Nfl teams get first picks in the drafts


Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: 493_DART] #200743
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It doesn't make sense to me, what does NHRA care about how much money it cost a team? Somewhere between the lines, and all that fine print, its putting money or benefiting NHRA in some form or fashion. Other than being "worried" about the teams. And if they are, due to low car count, and teams folding they're a day late and a dollar short now. If the teams doesn't have the money to test, they simply wont test. i don't see how putting a cap on it will help.


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Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #200744
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It doesn't make sense to me, what does NHRA care about how much money it cost a team?






NHRA does NOT care at all ... they just want to LOCK these teams into running only their program.

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: B Dartman] #200745
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I can't see how they could police this, and at the same time the local tracks will scream that they are cutting off the potential gate $$ for match races and the alike. This could be a GREAT opportunity to attract more fuel cars to IHRA if they'd just make the classes for them. Real stupid move, NHRA.
But no biggie, I ain't going back to the stands of a national event until they get rid of the stupid race to finals, or whatever they are calling that stupidity, and 1000' racing.

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: Sixpak] #200746
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Saw a pretty good logo on another site...Not Helping Racers Anymore

Re: Stop that!! NHRA to limit Pro testing? [Re: Chad Bittle] #200747
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Saw a pretty good logo on another site...Not Helping Racers Anymore





The way i see it is NHRA is holding the little guy down by not letting them do testing or match race or crossover to IHRA events. I don't see why they would care, the funding doesn't come from their sponsership. Yes it looks like they want all the action.



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