Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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My '56 Plymouth has a '91 Dakota clip, done by the PO. Fits like the proverbial glove.
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Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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the dakota full frame approach is a rocky road-----the frame kicks up too high over the rear wheels---you will spend alot of time cutting your rear floorboards out and trying to make it look normal around the back seat and trunk....i put a dakota front clip on my 50 hudson--exactly the same front width---frame within 3/4 inch of same width...bob I will not be using the entire frame from the Dakota. I would only be using the front portion and grafting it to the 1957 Plymouth frame.
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Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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While both rides are present, park them side by side and make measurements, so you know how much of the Dakota you want to keep and use. Its lots easier to determine where you want to cut something when you can look at them both.
Look at things like level points (with measurements off the ground in several places along both frames)with the rides parked at the same location in the garage or on the driveway. Determine fixed points on both frames that will be at least 12" away from the cut zone, so you will have reference points when its in pieces. Heights, widths, lengths, cross measurements, height off the ground, at several locations, at a given point on your garage is real useful when you need the new frame to be straight and flat. Write this stuff down, and take and draw pictures, its amazing how fast the memory fades over a couple months time. If you think maybe it might be something of value, make the measurement and write it down, its better to have useless info then to be missing something you wish you would have done.
Time spent looking at stuff side by side could be a life saver later. At least that's been my experience. Gene
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Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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While both rides are present, park them side by side and make measurements, so you know how much of the Dakota you want to keep and use. Its lots easier to determine where you want to cut something when you can look at them both.
Look at things like level points (with measurements off the ground in several places along both frames)with the rides parked at the same location in the garage or on the driveway. Determine fixed points on both frames that will be at least 12" away from the cut zone, so you will have reference points when its in pieces. Heights, widths, lengths, cross measurements, height off the ground, at several locations, at a given point on your garage is real useful when you need the new frame to be straight and flat. Write this stuff down, and take and draw pictures, its amazing how fast the memory fades over a couple months time. If you think maybe it might be something of value, make the measurement and write it down, its better to have useless info then to be missing something you wish you would have done.
Time spent looking at stuff side by side could be a life saver later. At least that's been my experience. Gene All good advice for sure. Measure twice cut once... after you have measured two more times.
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Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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04 Dak front clip on a 55 Dodge 1/2 ton pu. Do you happen to have a shot face down of how you did the work and the width of the frames from the inside? Does anyone know the dakota frame width? RUMBLON
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Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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'56's are a different front suspension design, they still had king pins. '57 was the first year for torsion aire suspension... my friend and i were discussing a front suspension/frame swap for the wagon, he currently has 18 57/58 plymouths, one of which is slated for a b1 headed stroker.
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Re: 1957 plymouth, art morrison bikini clip, or 1st gen dakota
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04 Dak front clip on a 55 Dodge 1/2 ton pu. Do you happen to have a shot face down of how you did the work and the width of the frames from the inside? Does anyone know the dakota frame width? RUMBLON Sorry no shots looking straight down at splice. The Dak frame is wider than the early Dodge truck frames. I used a gen II Dak front end on my 55 because I got it for cheap. Most swaps are done with the Gen I Dak front end. It's a much better fit and you can get dropped spindals for them. Best advice I can give you is set both frames side by side and determine where you want the splice before cutting anything. Also be sure you match the old trucks wheel base other wise your fender wheel wells will not be centered on tires.
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