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how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? #1995465
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steve clukeys engine is one bad ass small block. what do you think it would take for heads, cam and compression to make this kind of power? I'm thinking hes using the 245cc heads on this as the peak torque is way high at 6100rpm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vMv5zjW9oI

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995482
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how? NASCAR type money, that's how.


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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995491
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I know of a W9 340 combo that made 696? So just add cubes, easy right? lol


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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995504
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1.82 per cube. Definitely doable.


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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995506
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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: Roughbird72] #1995514
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this is with indy heads. im thinking he may have $15,000-20,000 in it. how do you do it with indy heads not W heads? if it has 14:1 compression, .700" cam and 245cc heads would this be enough to make 750ish? hp peaked at 7000@756

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995537
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Man I wish we could just race dynos instead of wasting our time going to the track. Not happy with the numbers change the correction numbers. Lol. So many of these builds are disappointing once they hit the track


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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1995545
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the car runs low 9's in a duster with ladder bars and comp engineering shocks. nothing fansy here. it has been in the 8's as well. maybe that puts things into perspective here.

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1995555
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Man I wish we could just race dynos instead of wasting our time going to the track. Not happy with the numbers change the correction numbers. Lol. So many of these builds are disappointing once they hit the track

iagree iagree iagree Not speaking of the engine build in question here in particular, but a LOT of them I've seen never amount to much at the track.


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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1995568
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Man I wish we could just race dynos instead of wasting our time going to the track. Not happy with the numbers change the correction numbers. Lol. So many of these builds are disappointing once they hit the track


Should it be installed in a 1977 royal monaco with 2.73 gears and a stock converter, mismatched 15 year old uniroyal tires and original shocks then taken down the track so you can get its real horsepower?

So many builds are put into disappointing cars if only there was some sort of tool to test it prior to installing it.

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995581
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My 454 indy headed SB made 778 @ 6500. It has a very mild roller,X block. Its been 5.66 @ 120 in my 2850# Duster. Its also broken its share of 904 parts and 8 3/4" rears. Now it has a dana.

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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: DavidDean] #1995594
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sounds like a real nice combo you have.

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995596
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iv seen some chassis pics of the other side of steves car. nothing expensive under there. i have way more invested in my chassis and cant get out of the 10's. motor and trans is his biggest expense. like i said before chassis engineering shocks on each corner. im just amazed at how well the car works with what he has there.
again, any ideas at to what you think might be in that 416 combo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDBkXRiDkxU

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995599
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heres another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTybSlxVelM
alot of guys on here talk about how important good shocks are as well as chassis set up. steve has none of that and the car runs fansastic every run.

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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1995604
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Man I wish we could just race dynos instead of wasting our time going to the track. Not happy with the numbers change the correction numbers. Lol. So many of these builds are disappointing once they hit the track

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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995606
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Well I see a vacuum pump so I'm betting a custom piston and ring package, at that compression VERY expensive gasoline, betting on a bigger than stock intake valve and heavily ported heads and intake, roller cams a big help, and it sound like a well built standard transmission. Just my thoughts.


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

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Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995617
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
the car runs low 9's in a duster with ladder bars and comp engineering shocks. nothing fansy here. it has been in the 8's as well. maybe that puts things into perspective here.


seems like his et would be better than low 9's w/ 756hp. unless he has a ton of mph?????

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995630
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9.09 @ 145, looks to me like it's smoking' right along.

What's stock valves or ported heads have to do with anything? Is there a "cheap" race gas? Tons of street cars have ported heads. Hell my new street/strip build has custom pistons and ported heads, intake too. Oh yeah, roller cam too. laugh2

Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: mopar dave] #1995634
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Justinp61...Pittsburghracer was just trying to help figure out what this combo consisted of, which the OP was asking about in his first post.
I agree that this particular combo seems to run good. Love the Lenco!


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: how do you make 756HP with a n/a 416? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1995639
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