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Dashpad VIN tags #1979317
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Does anybody "remake" dashpad VIN plates, and most importantly is this legit and legal????? I am interested in buying a car from another state , FULLY documented, with a state issued registration, cowl, radiator support and drivers door sticker all match the #s. Dash was removed and now gone. This is my main concern to buying this car, any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks MoParts members

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Plenty of this exact topic on here, attached is the latest:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...vin-stamps.html

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Re: Dashpad VIN tags [Re: Tim8979] #1979335
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Originally Posted By Tim8979
Does anybody "remake" dashpad VIN plates, and most importantly is this legit and legal????? I am interested in buying a car from another state , FULLY documented, with a state issued registration, cowl, radiator support and drivers door sticker all match the #s. Dash was removed and now gone. This is my main concern to buying this car, any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks MoParts members




If the State issued VIN is the car's original VIN number sequence, and you have ALL the required documentation, then contact www.datatags.com to see about having a repro VIN plate made, If your vehicle's VIN carries an alternate VIN number and it's traceable to the vehicles original issued VIN, then your stuck with the State Issued VIN

Don't release/post your VIN as some individuals will "black flag" your vehicle in their so called "registries"

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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By Tim8979
Does anybody "remake" dashpad VIN plates, and most importantly is this legit and legal????? I am interested in buying a car from another state , FULLY documented, with a state issued registration, cowl, radiator support and drivers door sticker all match the #s. Dash was removed and now gone. This is my main concern to buying this car, any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks MoParts members




If the State issued VIN is the car's original VIN number sequence, and you have ALL the required documentation, then contact www.datatags.com to see about having a repro VIN plate made, If your vehicle's VIN carries an alternate VIN number and it's traceable to the vehicles original issued VIN, then your stuck with the State Issued VIN

Don't release/post your VIN as some individuals will "black flag" your vehicle in their so called "registries"


too late , every B/E body that has a vin tag that is currently in Indiana is now flagged .


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Re: Dashpad VIN tags [Re: JohnRR] #1979419
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Thank you for the info about datatags.com I want to make sure this is TOTALLY LEGIT and legal 1st and foremost, and also want it to be authentic not just a black tag with #s and letters, Does anybody have any good or bad input, time factor to get done and cost???? I will be in contact with them tomorrow. Thanks again in advance

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What if someone years ago decided to take this dash out and swap it in another car and this old vin number is registered already on another car? We know that the other car is illegal, but I'm just saying. What happened to the original tag anyway.

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If it has a state issued VIN, that is the new legal identifier.

It also means that number is on the title.

Anytime a state issued VIN is created, the car had to be inspected which included a legal paper trail which lead up to the newly assigned VIN.

If a dash VIN suddenly appears on it from a black market source with the paper trail showing it was missing, you are really taking your chances.

Check with your local state cops before proceeding with any 'internet advice' you hear (mine included) since VIN laws vary by state & the state cops will tell you what legal options you have - if any.

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Datatag is not a black market source. The process involves your local law enforcement agency. I don't think the law is in the black market and is going to help you commit fraud.
But yes check with your State Dept. of Revenue. If the car already has a state issued vin then why bother with it?


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Originally Posted By Tim8979
Does anybody "remake" dashpad VIN plates, and most importantly is this legit and legal????? I am interested in buying a car from another state , FULLY documented, with a state issued registration, cowl, radiator support and drivers door sticker all match the #s. Dash was removed and now gone. This is my main concern to buying this car, any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks MoParts members


Buy a different car unless your getting that one at a VERY reduced price. I wouldn't touch it myself.
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Originally Posted By RJS
Originally Posted By Tim8979
Does anybody "remake" dashpad VIN plates, and most importantly is this legit and legal????? I am interested in buying a car from another state , FULLY documented, with a state issued registration, cowl, radiator support and drivers door sticker all match the #s. Dash was removed and now gone. This is my main concern to buying this car, any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks MoParts members


Buy a different car unless your getting that one at a VERY reduced price. I wouldn't touch it myself.
Ron


Agree. If there wasn't something wrong wouldn't the seller already have done this?

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Originally Posted By moparmarks
Datatag is not a black market source. The process involves your local law enforcement agency. I don't think the law is in the black market and is going to help you commit fraud.


I know someone that got a VIN from Datatags, he was correcting a fast one the seller tried to pull on him, he put the correct VIN back on the car. The prior owner swapped the dash frame to another because the car was missing it's original engine and the donor had the original engine, what the donkey neglected to do was remove the factory fender tag which had the original VIN on it and those numbers matched the build plant and partial stamped on the body in 2 places .

There was no law enforcement involved. Maybe things have changed ?


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Originally Posted By Tim8979
Thank you for the info about datatags.com I want to make sure this is TOTALLY LEGIT and legal 1st and foremost, and also want it to be authentic not just a black tag with #s and letters, Does anybody have any good or bad input, time factor to get done and cost???? I will be in contact with them tomorrow. Thanks again in advance


But it's not totally legit, the state issued VIN tag is the ONLY LEGIT vin tag that belongs on this car now. What you are attempting to do is committing fraud .


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Or, perhaps, buying a desirable, but parted together car at a steep discount, and an idea sparked by the seller that "value can be added if you just..."
As can happen, the deed doer is not the guy arranging the documentation slip
Nothing wrong with a car that maintains it's historical past, it is what it is.

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Consider this question closed. I am not going to buy this car based on the opinions / advise in which I asked for from this forum. I asked this question because I did not want to invest or waste THOUSANDS of dollars on a car that had a clear TITLE (with VIN), registration with the SAME VIN, fender tag, cowl in GOOD SHAPE, radiator support and engine block and trans with all #s matching same as title. Only the dash tag is missing. Why someone took the dash and interior out and now dash is missing,.... I cant answer that, but that's why I asked you for input and advise. @JohnRR, it was never my thought and or intent to committing fraud in anyway shape or form. PERIOD!!!, I only came to this forum for help, in doing the right thing, I was cautious of buying and then NOT being able to get a dashtag , same as you would be I am sure. So please feel free to subtract my # from your post count. Thanks MoParts members for the ad

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Tim,
I was watching this post as I have a casual friend with a 72 Challenger that he had restored by a shop that shall remain nameless. They lost the Vin tag and dash pad that it was attached to. He hasn't had any issues as he hasn't tried to sell the car but somewhere down the road it will be an issue for someone. up

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Thank you TJP, I agree,thats why I DIDNT want to get into something that couldn't be fixed. Because as you stated..... sometimes S!@# happens, just wonder after getting called out what would happen if something happened to someones HIGH $$$ car such as what happened to your friends. Thanks

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Originally Posted By Tim8979
Consider this question closed. I am not going to buy this car based on the opinions / advise in which I asked for from this forum. I asked this question because I did not want to invest or waste THOUSANDS of dollars on a car that had a clear TITLE (with VIN), registration with the SAME VIN, fender tag, cowl in GOOD SHAPE, radiator support and engine block and trans with all #s matching same as title. Only the dash tag is missing. Why someone took the dash and interior out and now dash is missing,.... I cant answer that, but that's why I asked you for input and advise. @JohnRR, it was never my thought and or intent to committing fraud in anyway shape or form. PERIOD!!!, I only came to this forum for help, in doing the right thing, I was cautious of buying and then NOT being able to get a dashtag , same as you would be I am sure. So please feel free to subtract my # from your post count. Thanks MoParts members for the ad


Doesn't matter if it has all those items , it has a VIN tag that was applied by the state , that is the only LEGIT VIN tag for that car now and if you were to remove it to replace it with a reproduced tag you would be tampering wit hthe VIN of the car and if you sold the car and didn't tell the buyer that is the FRAUD ... especially if you removed the state applied tag.

The good thing is you asked BEFORE buying it unlike the dummies that ask AFTER buying it.


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I've only seen one or two cars that had state issued VINs and it has been a while since then. IIRC they were attached to the drivers side door jam, not the dash.
That being the case, would it be legal for an owner to put a repro tag with the car's VIN on the dash in the standard location, as long as the state issued VIN tag on the door jam was still left in place? stirthepot

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Originally Posted By Mastershake340
I've only seen one or two cars that had state issued VINs and it has been a while since then. IIRC they were attached to the drivers side door jam, not the dash.
That being the case, would it be legal for an owner to put a repro tag with the car's VIN on the dash in the standard location, as long as the state issued VIN tag on the door jam was still left in place? stirthepot


That's the question, now isn't it? I had to get a state issued VIN tag years ago, but it was on a 64 Chrysler so it's not comparable here. But I would be asking the authorities who inspect the VINs about doing this first, wouldn't want to get myself in any legal issues. Not to mention that even if he kept the state issued tag intact, it would still affect resale, or I would think so. Not sure there's an out that wouldn't have a potential bite in it here.


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What are you talking about State applied tag????? THERE IS NO TAG on the dash. THERE IS NO ORIGINAL DASH. Its gone, lost, poof, m.i.a., The only tag left is the original drivers door sticker that CLEARLY has the same VIN# on it as the title, the fender tag, cowl, radiator support that came from the FACTORY, not the state! GEEZ, how can I be any clearer on this. That is why I asked if anyone made a repro dash tag if someone had "verifiable documentation", because of this AND it being out of state I had State Police run the vehicles #s and it all came back clear, even to the last owners info. That's when I asked this forum. NOW, JohnRR since I cant get a dashtag remade, I am not going to buy this car. Thanks again, msg closed! Mastershake340, Ur 71 Challenger is a thing of beauty!!! Happy New Years everyone be safe

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