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Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? #1945851
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I am missing one of the heater hose fittings on my water pump. This is a 71 charger with a 69 440 in it. What makes this an odd pairing is the fitting on the firewall are a 5/8" and a 1/2". It looks like the correct fittings for a 69 engine are 2 5/8" fittings. Is this normally worked around by buying a convertor or is there a fitting that works for this that I just haven't found.


Here is a picture of the water pump with the missing fitting



Here is the firewall with the different sized fittings.


Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: BigAg] #1945858
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Common hardware store plumbing fittings/reducer bushings/nipples work well but are somewhat unsightly. On the nipple that you slide the heater hose on I smooth the threads to protect the hose & leave a raised edge on the outer end of the nipple to help with hose retention (just like the OE Mopar fittings have)


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Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: BigAg] #1945869
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Get the fittings for '70 up big block motors. Herbs, Mega, etc. all carry them.
The 1/2" fitting has a 1/4 pipe thread so you'll need to use a pipe bushing from that size up to the thead in the water pump housing. IIRC it's 3/8 pipe thread. Home Depot sells them in brass. I got my nipples from Herbs.

http://www.herbsparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HNK-2

The longer 5/8" fitting goes in the lower empty hole in your pic. The short 1/2" fitting goes in the hole up top where you have an old 5/8" fitting.

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Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: Pynzo] #1945874
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Mancini has them also. Worst case you may need a reducer bushing in the WP housing but that is not very noticeable.

Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: ahy] #1945907
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Agreed, the correct nipple is far better & a plumbing reducer bushing as needed


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Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: Pynzo] #1945908
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Home Depot also sells these internal pipe wrenches. These are great for pulling and installing the nipples.

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This is probally a dumb questions but is there anything special to screwing the fitting in? Any special mopar Gel or so to prevent it from leaking?

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If i know i will never take it out, i use red loctite.

Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: BigAg] #1946255
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They are pipe threads so teflon tape or pipe thread sealant work fine.

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Originally Posted By BigAg
This is probally a dumb questions but is there anything special to screwing the fitting in? Any special mopar Gel or so to prevent it from leaking?


It's a pipe thread , it sort of is supposed to self seal , but you can put some type of pipe thread sealant /lube on it and screw it in , then clean off what is exposed before painting.

I bought a fitting that from a member in Maine a few years back that was made to fit the larger hole of the WP housing and go down to the smaller hose size.

I also made one , I found a HELP fitting that was the larger thread , and 5/8 hose but the internal hole was the size of a 1/2" barb,I chucked it in a lathe and turned it down to 1/2" barb size.

I still have it kicking around.


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Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: JohnRR] #1946370
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Mega Parts makes an adapter hose nipple to use a 69-down waterpump housing on a 70-up car.Their part# is 132-HC010.Good people to deal with. John.


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Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: BigAg] #1946444
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Any farm/ag/equipment shop should have a good selection of brass fittings and be able to get you a 1/2" barbed hose fitting for 3/8 NPT thread. The Fariview part would be 125-8C if it is indeed a 3/8 thread. That plus a tube of permatex thread sealant and you should be out the door for only a few dollars.

Re: Heater hose fitting mismatch between engine and car? [Re: BigAg] #1946536
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Hit any autoparts store and order 4 seansons pt # 84712
Its the right threads for the pump and the right size the heater hose

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