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Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? #1944951
11/04/15 12:07 PM
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Guys, Gals,

I get a persistent little drip of fuel from the brass nipple that screws into the fuel pump housing. I've tightened it, and it seems better, but still a bit of moist fuel comes past the threads.

Do I keep tightening the brass fitting, or do you guys use that plumber's teflon tape or some kind of sealant at these fittings?

I believe I have a small jar of white goop sealant from NAPA that is fuel resistant.

Thanks,
- Art


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Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1944959
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Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1944976
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I'd pull the line off, put a flaring tool on it to "adjust" the flare.

You shouldn't need to crank down the fitting to seal that, JMO

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: roadhazard] #1944982
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What Roadhazard said, take the fitting off & inspect the cone interface on both sides which is where it seals. reflare it slightly then use some sealant on the threads to take care of any minor seepage from a less than perfect union but considering that it might get worse on down the line plus the severity of a fuel leak, I would likely cut/reflare the line and or get a new fitting especially if it was on the pressure side going to the carb


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Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945003
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Throw your teflon tape in to the garbage. With the poor quality of today's asian made fittings, the teflon tape doesn't cut it. Permatex Thread Sealant is what you want. All the heavy duty shops, including ours, use it for everything.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945007
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Quote:
I get a persistent little drip of fuel from the brass nipple that screws into the fuel pump housing.


It seems like he's saying the fitting is leaking at the fuel pump....not the line/fitting connection. Isn't the fuel pump pipe thread? Pipe thread should seal itself shouldn't it? I wonder if the fitting has a small crack in it?

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945009
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First thing to establish is are you dealing with pipe threads or an inverted flare fitting.
Pipe threads require sealant, several options are available.
Inverted flare fittings do not require sealant. confused

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: TJP] #1945051
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Originally Posted By TJP
First thing to establish is are you dealing with pipe threads or an inverted flare fitting.
Pipe threads require sealant, several options are available.
Inverted flare fittings do not require sealant. confused


This^^^^^
And use pipe dope on tapered pipe threads around fuel systems, not tape.
Because tape will wick fuel(turns yellow) and is hell if you ever remove the fitting because little pieces of teflon tape will be everywhere and hard to keep out of your fuel system.

And if you apply the tape wrong to begin with you will have tape in your fuel system from the get go. Avoid teflon tape around fuel systems is my advise.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: burdar] #1945053
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Originally Posted By burdar
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I get a persistent little drip of fuel from the brass nipple that screws into the fuel pump housing.


It seems like he's saying the fitting is leaking at the fuel pump....not the line/fitting connection. Isn't the fuel pump pipe thread? Pipe thread should seal itself shouldn't it? I wonder if the fitting has a small crack in it?


Nope pipe fittings need a thread sealer, even brass fittings do.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: Challenger 1] #1945081
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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
Originally Posted By burdar
Quote:
I get a persistent little drip of fuel from the brass nipple that screws into the fuel pump housing.


It seems like he's saying the fitting is leaking at the fuel pump....not the line/fitting connection. Isn't the fuel pump pipe thread? Pipe thread should seal itself shouldn't it? I wonder if the fitting has a small crack in it?


Nope pipe fittings need a thread sealer, even brass fittings do.


I agree!

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945144
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I have always used pipe dope on my fuel line fitting, with good success. The same stuff plumbers use. I just buy it at my local hardware store.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945152
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Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: burdar] #1945285
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Thanks for your responses -

Originally Posted By burdar
Quote:
I get a persistent little drip of fuel from the brass nipple that screws into the fuel pump housing.


It seems like he's saying the fitting is leaking at the fuel pump....not the line/fitting connection. Isn't the fuel pump pipe thread? Pipe thread should seal itself shouldn't it? I wonder if the fitting has a small crack in it?


Yes. It's the brass fitting here:



The leak appears to be getting past the brass nipple's threads where it screws into the metal housing of the fuel pump.

But Thanks for your responses -

What I take away here is I can safely try using some standard parts-store sealant to try and stop this.
NOT teflon tape.

I'll be wearing a new cologne tonight!
- Art

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67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23
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67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd
71 Alfa Romeo GT Junior 1300 Zagato, 1.3L 4cyl DOHC hemi 5-spd
82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle
75 Maserati Bora US spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF
77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF
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Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945300
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I was told never to use Teflon tape. that it can break up and get into the fuel system. But, I know people have done it.
I use ARP thread sealer.

I also had an issue with a leaky fuel pump fitting. It ended up that the soft metal housing had bad threads. So I sent it back and summit sent me a new pump. I then used a brand new fitting and lightly torqued the fitting with thread sealer on to the pump. no leaks.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945304
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Yes any pipe dope at any store will seal gasoline and most everything else. Some are non hardening is all, they all work for gasoline, IMO.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945391
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I've always used permatex #2 on any threads that needed sealing...

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: screamindriver] #1945395
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Originally Posted By screamindriver
I've always used permatex #2 on any threads that needed sealing...


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Yep, even had to use it on the cheap imported water pipes when I replumbed my water heater.


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Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945399
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NPT threads seal on a metal to metal contact and PTFE tape or paste provides lubrication.

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Take it from a carb guy. NEVER use Teflon tape on anything fuel related.

As mentioned by roadhazard and rapidrobert, the best is always a mechanical seal.

Any type of sealant is a future potential leak and possible contaminant that can enter your fuel system and cause further trouble.

Re: Do you seal, or put teflon tape on your fuel pump fittings? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #1945420
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You don't have to fear the PTFE tape. Keep the first few threads clear and only one or two layers. Don't back off the fitting once tight....no tape will get into the system.

Advice from a Certified Hydraulic Hose and Fitting guy.

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