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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/25/15 05:01 PM
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Exhaust pattern looks weird in that picture and why would Edelbrock put a stock rocker shaft setup on an expensive race head? They should only sell the serious heads with pads for Jesel or T&D rocker arms. Wonder if the same guy who screwed up their Victor BB head designed this SB head?
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/25/15 05:41 PM
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Exhaust pattern looks weird in that picture and why would Edelbrock put a stock rocker shaft setup on an expensive race head? They should only sell the serious heads with pads for Jesel or T&D rocker arms. Wonder if the same guy who screwed up their Victor BB head designed this SB head? Actually uses a Hughes specific BB Mopar offset rocker. Eddie gave me the PN. They simply said buy it from Hughes. So milling the stands and pads is required to run a Jesel or T&D setup. I'm on the fence. Dump my R3 and go Ritter/P7 or keep what I got and dive in on these heads. It is ridiculous to think I can buy a Ritter block and GOOD P7's for less than these heads!!
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/25/15 05:48 PM
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The prices are still subject to change. What you are seeing now are pre-release MSRP. I am hoping they will come wayyy down. I agree, the prices seems pretty high right now. I looked through the Victor head line up. All average about 1K, except the 429 Fords at $1850. So they are not afraid to sell their heads in the 2K range. Wait and see. Sounds familiar....
Craig Scholl CJD Automotive, LLC Jacksonville, FL www.CJDAUTOMOTIVE.com904-400-1802 "I own a Mopar. I already know it won't be in stock, won't ship tomorrow, and won't fit without modification"
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 12:24 AM
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Well now that we get to see what it looks like from another angle: Dammit Edelbrock, must you machine the end face of that thing flat with your logo on it? Is it too much to ask to have it look like normal cylinder head and not a sawed-off piece of lumber? 
Mo' Farts
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 12:30 AM
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Well now that we get to see what it looks like from another angle: Dammit Edelbrock, must you machine the end face of that thing flat with your logo on it? Is it too much to ask to have it look like normal cylinder head and not a sawed-off piece of lumber? Yeah, whatever....I'm sure those exact thoughts crossed the minds of everyone who planned on buying them 
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 01:39 AM
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Mmmm, thanks.  I'm glad it doesn't matter to you, but it does to me. I want my 650hp small block to look stock, I have different things in mind than you do.
Mo' Farts
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 01:58 AM
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Well now that we get to see what it looks like from another angle: Dammit Edelbrock, must you machine the end face of that thing flat with your logo on it? Is it too much to ask to have it look like normal cylinder head and not a sawed-off piece of lumber? This is why I say we Mopar guys are our own worst enemies.
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 02:30 AM
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Well now that we get to see what it looks like from another angle: Dammit Edelbrock, must you machine the end face of that thing flat with your logo on it? Is it too much to ask to have it look like normal cylinder head and not a sawed-off piece of lumber? That is the oddest small block head I have ever seen. Otherwise, yes they must.
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 06:31 AM
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Mmmm, thanks. I'm glad it doesn't matter to you, but it does to me. I want my 650hp small block to look stock, I have different things in mind than you do. In that case you may want to look into W2 heads instead. I think those could get you to 650Hp but it wont idle like a stock 318 out of you moms Cherokee.
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/26/15 09:12 AM
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I'll take the sawed off look. A little extra beef on the ends isn't going to hurt a thing.
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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09/26/15 01:27 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion, but: cast iron.
Just too many reasons to go aluminum, biggest is the 40 pound weight saving.
Mo' Farts
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
[Re: Rob C]
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09/30/15 02:19 PM
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Looking for your cake and a fork to eat it too? We all are to some degree. But it just inst available in your flavor. Stock looking head to fool people with in aluminum. Hunt down aluminum W2's? Could be a while.
While I agree that aluminum is the way to go, the iron W2 is your only option minus the aluminum. 40 lbs. isn't much to fret over, but certainly an amount of weight to try and loose, not regain for a certain look.
Are you racing the car Grizzly or is it a fail purpose street striper?
You can get creative on where you can loose 40lbs. Right?
I just don't think 40lbs. is the end all. 100lbs. for a tenth? It's more than weight. Aluminum dissipates heat at a far better rate than iron, allowing roughly a point more compression on the same octane. So it's weight and power/efficiency. I don't understand the stock look. Had a customer that we put Eddie Hemi heads and dual quad intake on (it's an air gap). Painted it all. So the stock people right off know it's not stock and the performance people see paint and keep walking. So my question is, what are you trying to achieve looking stock, and why?
Craig Scholl CJD Automotive, LLC Jacksonville, FL www.CJDAUTOMOTIVE.com904-400-1802 "I own a Mopar. I already know it won't be in stock, won't ship tomorrow, and won't fit without modification"
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/30/15 07:43 PM
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I never understood why doesn't somebody just make an Aluminum W2 (As cast or CNC ported) with the shafts and offset rockers available as a Kit? Surely the Batten Sand boxes must be around somewhere?
FWIW I had my W2's thermal barrier coated in the chambers, Valve faces and exhaust ports, I wasn't too worried about weight for this one though.
In retrospect I should pull the 414 alum head motor out of the Rocky and put the 440 W2 in it's place....The rocky could use 40 pounds over the nose to help it not wheelstand....plus I have a Holley Pro Dommy Tunnel ram I could use AND STILL FIT IT UNDER THE HOOD
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Re: Edelbrock victor sb
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09/30/15 07:58 PM
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I never understood why doesn't somebody just make an Aluminum W2 (As cast or CNC ported) with the shafts and offset rockers available as a Kit? Surely the Batten Sand boxes must be around somewhere?
FWIW I had my W2's thermal barrier coated in the chambers, Valve faces and exhaust ports, I wasn't too worried about weight for this one though.
In retrospect I should pull the 414 alum head motor out of the Rocky and put the 440 W2 in it's place....The rocky could use 40 pounds over the nose to help it not wheelstand....plus I have a Holley Pro Dommy Tunnel ram I could use AND STILL FIT IT UNDER THE HOOD Pretty sure this is what the Indy head is based off of but i may be mistaken.
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