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Molasses as a rust remover question. #1917072 09/21/15 10:33 PM 09/21/15 10:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA M mopar4ya OP master
mopar4ya OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	I have a block with the crank, rods, pistons, cam, lifters and distributor still in it that I am trying to get apart. I can't turn the camshaft or distributor. Will the molasses bath eat up anything in the distributor, or the aluminum housing. It is a point type GM unit. Also, can anyone advise on what ratio to mix powdered molasses to make the best rust remover. Thanks Dan.

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917086 09/21/15 11:01 PM 09/21/15 11:01 PM
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5wndwcpe pro stock Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,528 Southeast PA	The molasses didn't eat up anything I put in it but I will tell you this - it stinks to high heaven. Keep it covered TIGHTLY and use a fish tank heater to keep the stuff warm. Sorry I can't help with the ratio as i used the liquid stuff. Did I mention it stinks ? 1968 GTX hardtop 1968 Sport Satellite Convertible 383/4spd 1933 Plymouth coupe 2002 Ram 2500 oil burner 4x4 2015 Grand Cherokee 2013 Challenger 1957 Chrysler Saratoga Man...I need a bigger freakin' garage.

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917339 09/22/15 12:52 PM 09/22/15 12:52 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Dan any possibility some solvent or WD40 would do the trick? live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917388 09/22/15 01:54 PM 09/22/15 01:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Buy a plastic or metal horse trough, also buy or fashion the tightest fitting lid you can because as mentioned, it reeks! Buy a 50lb sack of dry molasses powder (horse feed supply stores sell it, it's cheap) dump about half of it in the trough and fill the rest up with water (stop 8-10 inches from the top so adding parts doesn't over flow it). While at the feed store buy a water trough heater (keeps water from freezing so cattle can drink in winter) nothing fancy, most are cheap. hook up the heater, add the lid, and let it ferment for a couple weeks to a month (the warmer the faster). Once it's cooked up you can reuse it for a very long time. I've soaked 6 engine blocks in mine and the mixture has not degraded at all, a week or two and the nastiest rusty blocks are perfectly clean cast iron. I steam clean the grease off before soaking, not really required but grease can slow or stop the process where it's coating the metal. FWIW Safest Rust Remover or Evaporust will do the same job but will cost a lot more. .02

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917393 09/22/15 01:59 PM 09/22/15 01:59 PM
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ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	I use wood bleach to de rust stuff, few table spoons per gallon of warm water. A tub of it at ace is around $7

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1917545 09/22/15 06:19 PM 09/22/15 06:19 PM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,290 fredericksburg,va	Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms Buy a plastic or metal horse trough, also buy or fashion the tightest fitting lid you can because as mentioned, it reeks! Buy a 50lb sack of dry molasses powder (horse feed supply stores sell it, it's cheap) dump about half of it in the trough and fill the rest up with water (stop 8-10 inches from the top so adding parts doesn't over flow it). While at the feed store buy a water trough heater (keeps water from freezing so cattle can drink in winter) nothing fancy, most are cheap. hook up the heater, add the lid, and let it ferment for a couple weeks to a month (the warmer the faster). Once it's cooked up you can reuse it for a very long time. I've soaked 6 engine blocks in mine and the mixture has not degraded at all, a week or two and the nastiest rusty blocks are perfectly clean cast iron. I steam clean the grease off before soaking, not really required but grease can slow or stop the process where it's coating the metal. FWIW Safest Rust Remover or Evaporust will do the same job but will cost a lot more. .02 Good advice, I going to use a 55 gallon drum for my block(hope it fits)

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: cudaman1969] #1917754 09/22/15 11:11 PM 09/22/15 11:11 PM
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mopar4ya OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Robert, I think I am way past the WD40 or solvent. To bad this engine was left sitting the way it was. Thanks Dan.

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917757 09/22/15 11:14 PM 09/22/15 11:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,290 fredericksburg,va C cudaman1969 master
cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,290 fredericksburg,va	Originally Posted By mopar4ya Robert, I think I am way past the WD40 or solvent. To bad this engine was left sitting the way it was. Thanks Dan. Wasn't that the engine found in that civil war sub?

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917760 09/22/15 11:16 PM 09/22/15 11:16 PM
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mopar4ya OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Scott, I'm going to use a 55 gallon drum. If I add 25 pound of molasses, would about 30 gallon of water be about right? I'm not sure how big a trough is, not much of a farmer, lol. Can a complete carb be dipped in this, as all the linkage and other metal parts are rusty. Thanks Dan.

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1917865 09/23/15 02:01 AM 09/23/15 02:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes Dan, not an exact science, you want a lot of molasses but you want to end up with a watery solution (not thick and gooey). The carb and all that will work fine. This mixture will de-rust a block as bad as Cudaman1969 posted

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: cudaman1969] #1918116 09/23/15 03:26 PM 09/23/15 03:26 PM
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mopar4ya OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Originally Posted By cudaman1969 Originally Posted By mopar4ya Robert, I think I am way past the WD40 or solvent. To bad this engine was left sitting the way it was. Thanks Dan. Wasn't that the engine found in that civil war sub? No, it was the Mayflower. Dan.

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1918123 09/23/15 03:33 PM 09/23/15 03:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City Jwilli500 top fuel
Jwilli500 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,077 Oklahoma City	Was it used as an anchor on the Mayflower?

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1918251 09/23/15 06:19 PM 09/23/15 06:19 PM
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R/T1968R/T super stock Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 735 New York	Electrolytic rust removal! I built one and it works great. Cheaper than 25 gallons of molasses http://www.instructables.com/id/Electrolytic-Rust-Removal-aka-Magic/

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: R/T1968R/T] #1918439 09/23/15 10:44 PM 09/23/15 10:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,290 fredericksburg,va C cudaman1969 master
cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,290 fredericksburg,va	Originally Posted By R/T1968R/T Electrolytic rust removal! I built one and it works great. Cheaper than 25 gallons of molasses http://www.instructables.com/id/Electrolytic-Rust-Removal-aka-Magic/ Been looking at this myself, got any pics?

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: mopar4ya] #1918627 09/24/15 09:12 AM 09/24/15 09:12 AM
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Alchemi enthusiast A Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 234 Brisvegas, Australia	I use a 10:1 water to (liquid) molasses mix, no heater - generally hot where i live, takes a while, helps if you give it a scrub and agitate it every few days +1 on the steam clean first Lol at the smell - my vat has been banished to the far end of our yard I am in no way an engineer of any sort, but as far as i know electrolysis will eat the weakest metals first, so if its an ally dizzy, go the molasses

Re: Molasses as a rust remover question. [Re: cudaman1969] #1919014 09/24/15 07:34 PM 09/24/15 07:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 735 New York R/T1968R/T super stock
R/T1968R/T super stock Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 735 New York	The one I built looks just like the picture. a 5 gallon bucket and some rebar. I welded bolts to the rebar then put them through the bucket and used wire nuts instead. I did a rusty cylinder head just like the block. It comes out with a black dust on it. Power washed it and it looked like new!

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